Learn the truth about how to drive without a license. You have a fundamental and inherent right to travel, just as you have the right to breathe or eat.
How to drive without a license
is an aspect of sovereignty that many people want to learn. Can you legally drive without a license? What is the difference between driving and traveling? Is driving a right or a privilege? What do you say to the policeman if you are stopped? How can you best handle unconstitutional checkpoints? These are all important questions which we will explore here; if you want to know how to drive without a license, you’ll need to thoroughly master the concepts behind them.
Can you Legally Drive Without a License?
In short, yes – but technically you are traveling not driving (see below). However, just because you have a right to do something (in this case the right to travel), it does not mean you’ll never be hassled, intimidated, charged or even temporarily thrown in prison. Rights must be constantly asserted and defended, especially in the face of a growing police state such as the one in which we are now living. That means you need to be prepared to defend yourself. It’s not for everyone, but such is price paid by those who defend liberty and know how to drive without a license successfully.
What is the Difference between Driving and Traveling?
This might appear to be semantics or splitting hairs, but it’s not. The whole issue of how to drive without a license boils down to this. In everyday common English, to travel by means of a car, and to drive, are identical. However, one of the biggest cons of the Law Society is the fact that they have their own language (legalese) which appears to be English but which has different definitions for some key terms. In this case, as defined by legalese, “to drive” is to go on the roads by a motorized conveyance doing business or being engaged in commerce, and it is a privilege. “To travel”, on the other hand, is a right, and no legislation can be passed to strip you of your fundamental, inherent rights.
To state you are “driving” is to unwittingly place yourself in admiralty or commercial jurisdiction.
As a sovereign being, you never need surrender your rights and exchange them for privileges. This is the way societies descend into tyranny. To exchange a right for a privilege is to ask permission for something (in the form of a governmental permit or license) that you are free to do anyway.
Is Driving a Right or a Privilege?
Driving is a privilege; traveling is a right. A privilege is granted by some authority, and equally it can be taken away by some authority. A right can never be abrogated. Our right to travel can never be stripped from us; it is as fundamental to our existence as our right to breathe.
There is a lot of case law supporting the right to travel. The quotes below are just a tiny fraction of it. However, it is almost all law cases from admiralty or commercial jurisdiction, so it is not entirely relevant here.
What is the Case Law Supporting the Right to Travel?
Judges have been ruling on this case for literally over 100 years in various levels of Courts. Retired policeman Jack McLamb wrote a great article citing some of the case law (below). (Please note however this is merely supporting evidence and not the final say, because of these cases were held in admiralty / maritime / commercial jurisdiction, and the secret to driving without a license is challenging this jurisdiction and having your case heard in a common law court.)
CASE #1: “The use of the highway for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common fundamental right of which the public and individuals cannot rightfully be deprived.” Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 221.
CASE #2: “The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit or permit at will, but a common law right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 579.
CASE #3: “The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment.” Kent v. Dulles, 357 US 116, 125.
CASE #4: “The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right.” Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941.
For further information including case law on how to drive without a license, I suggest reading the magnificent sovereignty guide by Johnny Liberty “The Global Sovereign’s Handbook” and watching this in-depth InfoWars video. The DVD I Don’t Drive, I Travel is also very useful, inspiring and features people who know from firsthand experience about how to drive without a license successfully.
What Do You Say to the Policeman if You are Stopped?
The best way to handle peace officers, law enforcements officers or policemen is as sovereign, freeman-on-the-land Dean Clifford does in the video above. Politely and courteously state your rights; know the law and quote cases if need be; display the confidence that you know how to drive without a license, and that it is perfectly lawful; refuse to be intimidated; and most of all, be prepared to have a long conversation with the initial person’s superiors. Most cops are completely unaware that they are enforcing commercial statutes in admiralty jurisdiction, and that you can exercise your right to remain in common law jurisdiction. Admiralty jurisdictions uses administrative rules, regulations, code, statutes, policy and bylaws – all of which are not real “law” but operate under the color of law. If you are traveling privately and not engaged in business on the roads, you are not under commercial jurisdiction and do not need a license.
You’d be surprised how many police officers know about the right to travel, and will honor it if you confidently assert your rights.
How Can I Best Handle Unconstitutional Checkpoints?
This compilation “How to Refuse Unconstitutional Checkpoints” features some great firsthand examples. Ask the law enforcement officer if they are detaining you (“Are you detaining me or am I free to go?”); if they say they are detaining you, state that they only have 2 legal reasons for doing so: your consent or reasonable suspicion based on probable cause. State that they do not have your consent, so therefore they must produce probable cause, else they are illegally detaining you. Ask them for evidence of probable cause; if they have none, ask them again, politely but repeatedly, if you are free to go.
If you have more questions about how to drive without a license, and others matters relating to freedom, you can call Tools For Freedom at 800-770-8802 x1, leave your name and number, and we’ll be happy to send you out a free print catalog full of freedom and sovereignty resources.
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Makia Freeman is the editor of The Freedom Articles and senior researcher at ToolsForFreedom.com, writing on many aspects of truth and freedom, from exposing aspects of the global conspiracy to suggesting solutions for how humanity can create a new system of peace and abundance.
Sources:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/travel.htm
http://www.spingola.com/GlobalSovereignHandbook.pdf
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9kVCQ0y5Ec
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I am trying to keep the law,as it were.I spread the information daily,in fact.I is a Human Right,which this government oppresses so as to keep a hand over us.Illegally.
I’m having trouble understanding how this works in a practical situation, I live in New Jersey and my driver’s license is suspended for a long time. I’ve always been very independent as I’m single and have no immediate family, just a few friends who try to help me out when they can. I live in an area with no public transportation, which means not only am I prevented from working and earning a living because I have no way to get to a job but also enjoying most of the freedoms that traveling allows including simple things like going to the supermarket or even necessary appointments i.e. doctor and dentist visits. I feel like I’m on house arrest and am so bored and tired of feeling depressed but if I invoke the right to travel as a valid reason why I should be able to drive, I still can’t get auto insurance because I can’t register my car so I’m also unable to get insurance. This means that I would not only be charged with driving on the suspended list but also no registration or insurance and I would definitely be arrested and get jail time, which would absolutely ensure that I would become homeless in the process. Is it enough to merely cite these things to an officer to avoid more tickets, fines and jail time or would I still be charged and arrested? Please advise, I could really use some legitimate feedback on how to proceed and I don’t want to end up worse off than I am now. I’m not a young person and I’d like to have my freedom back.
I think this may help many ppl with the same question as you have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9kVCQ0y5Ec
Eddie Craig, former police officer that now educates the public about this exact subject.
He even has a script written up to follow should you be pulled over by the “authorities” in regards to your traveling. Its not about getting rude or citing law to the officer(s), but about recording the encounter and exercising your fifth amendment right against self incrimination. The script helps you to know what to say and HOW to say it so that, should you get a ticket of ANY sort, you can fight it in court AND WIN!!!
Give nothing, defend your rights and good luck!
because you fell into the trap with the issue of driving lic. You also created a prison without walls allowing the system to mess around with you . In PA some judges did go along with the issue of driving with out a lic. Most cop know nothing about it (drones for the system )the lawyer chosen not to deal with it because his job depends on it The courts are not constitutional court and therefore does not want to hear the issue on the driving without a lic. Umtil we get our constitutional country back nothing will change
Is this in all states right to travel without a license? I showed the police Sgt laws about it. My car was impounded due to my expired tags. I told him that’s state law not federal. The roads are public; I am not in commerce, only going to work and business. He told me he was enforcing VA state law. I’m told him the US Supreme Court see it differently and he refused to follow federal law so my rights were deprived.
Cops are generally not taught this thing, so it can be difficult to get them to understand. However, US courts have consistently upheld the right to travel, e.g.
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/DLbrief.shtml
I would like information on the right to travel in the state of Oregon I had a great driving record 25 years no tickets then bought a car that the sell was a scam lost my license because I drove it anyway after having trouble and unable to tag it therefore I didnt insure it the tickets were horrendous and I have never gotten nor do I want a state license again I just got pulled over again bought a car a couple months ago tags just expired so a ton more tickets. Do I have to have insurance and tags is there any thing on this that protects us from state fines. Thank you for your time. Kimberly
@Kimberly,
I’m in Oregon and have a solid grasp on dragging them into a court of record and proceed according to common law when they exceed their jurisdiction. I’m in Clackamas County and proceed against them there or into federal district court if needed. The issue is that their jurisdiction must be challenged on any statutory law ticket. There is some ground work to lay down and you will have issues with ignorant enforcement peace officers.
Knowing and exercising your rights is important. Learning them and why you have them is critical.
Feel free to contact me if you wish.
Marc
I am also in Clackamas County and would lol more information. The police not only refused to listen to me, but they also refused me the right to be seen at circuit court instead of municipal. I was told I had that option. Please email me at heatherraehall@gmail.com
Marc
I am trying to show my fiancee that Tao of law works if you just know what you can and can not do, and do not crumble. He recently went to jail for his 3rd dwls which has made it a habitual offense and a felony. This is my question, do you have any references that I can use to help him build his defense. We live in Hillsborough county florida, so any help or reference material would be of great help and appreciated. Also if you know of any lawyers by me that also believe and have won cases similar to the one above please forward that information. Thank you for your time and helping me in this most tragic misunderstanding that Eric has come across.
Hey so I got a ticket for driving and revocation and going to court for it so what would be something worth saying in court to defined my rights accurately and get it dismissed.
Your tags are a registration issue. Not a driver’s license issue. So they are not the same thing.
but if you register the vehicle isnt this acceptance of the commerce law?????? in order to travel freely you must NOT being conducting buisness or driving by defintion (legalese). no license equates to no registered automobile tags or otherwise. Once you register your vehicle it is commerce and inspection plus license for operator is lawful
I see what you are saying – however there is the question of capacity. It’s all about what you were doing at the actual time of the alleged infraction. They will PRESUME you were driving. However, a presumption of law is never as solid as a fact of law, and can be rebutted. Ask them to prove their claim/presumption.
No, registering your “vehicle” means you a merely able to preform commercial activities with it. That does not automatically mean your are engaged in any commercial activity
If you have a state tag on a vehicle, you are operating commercially. If you are not operating your vehicle commercially and will be traveling freely, you MUST take remove your tag to be lawful.
in a situation like this would it be possible to sue the police department for violating your rights?
Yes. I believe some have done this successfully, such as Charlie Sprinkle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS43EIQQ7ak
IF THEY DEPRIVE YOU OF YOUR RIGHTS WHAT I WAS TOLD YOU CAN SUE THEM AND YOU WON’T FIND A LAWYER WHO WILL DO IT.YOU HAVE TO BE IN A COMMON LAW COURT ROOM.WITH A RECORDER TAKE DOWN EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID.
You must remove all tags and Gov. made license plates off your car. If you have any of their logos it gives them jurisdiction. Get out of the whole game.
For future reference, probably won’t help you when you posted, but to others who experience this, REMEMBER THE FOLLOWING:
No police officer can take your personal property without your consent or a legal warrant. Your consent, passive or otherwise, allows them to take it. It is legal theft. ASK FOR THAT WARRANT!!! When you agree to let them impound or tow your vehicle, you are granting passive consent. This is because you did not assert your right and request the warrant, which is needed to take your personal property.
Hey great article , very informative . Would you happen to know if these methods are applicable where I live? (Australia)
Thanks.
I have not had personal experience applying these principles in Australia, but I see no reason why they wouldn’t apply everywhere – at least in Western countries. They certainly work in Canada and the US. Humans are born with inherent, unalienable natural rights, no matter what Government says or what it codifies in its laws.
I would appeal to cops/judges/bureaucrats at that deeper level, whenever communicating with them. Ask them to disprove that you have a right to travel in writing, etc. or else you will assume that it does exist. Usually they leave people alone who claim this right because they fear the publicity.
I’m from a small town called Slaton, Texas. There is an officer here that repeatedly pulls me over for no license. All I do is go from home to work and back. He pulls me over everyday cause he says “I know u don’t have a license.” I think it’s harassment. He impounds my car every stop. Would what you are saying help me in any way?
Absolutely! I suggest the following:
– Tell the cop you are traveling in a private capacity, and that courts all the way to the Supreme Court have upheld the inherent right to travel
– Go to this site (http://www.apfn.org/apfn/travel.htm), print it out and have it with you next tome you get stopped
– Get the cop’s name and badge number. Tell him he is personally responsible for his actions and that he will be personally liable if you bring action against him for harassment and other charges
I cant find the paperwork to give the police when I get stopped for traveling..i went to the site you mention and I cant find it to print it out…can you email it to me…I really appreciate your time and consideration on this matter….thank you
So how do I void my current drivers license? Is it as simple as letting it expire?
Yes, you can let it expire, or you can go to your local DMV (or whatever department/agency handles licensing) and revoke or cancel the contract with them.
I think this concept is goofy. I’ve seen referenced court case that somehow are not hyperlinked. That is the first thing I notice in these pages of this type of site that is fishy.
Next, each of these sites, this one included, makes a statement that the term “driver” has a legal definition of a person who is engaged in a work process. Yet they provide no case law reference that such a definition is factual in any jurisdiction.
Clearly I should research it a little bit further if it means that much to me. At this point I just think I am looking at a bunch of junk science style legal “opinions” of uncredentialed people who shouldn’t be providing legal advise.
I have personally experienced on my own, and helped many others, escape speeding fines, parking fines and “driving without a license” citations by using the information in this article as a basis. Judges and prosecutors rushed to dismiss the case. I know it works from experience. I’ve seen it time and time again. However, I understand your desire for more “proof” and have updated the article to include more case law and sources.
I was wondering,so I am 16 years old can I drive without a license or do I have to be 18 to have this right?
Good question. I see no reason why children and teenagers don’t have the same rights as adults; however, with a right comes the responsibility to use it and exercise it appropriately. Driving or operating a car or motor vehicle has serious consequences (such as accidentally killing others) if not done with care, precision and responsibility. Therefore, I would suggest you drive with adults for a long time until you have 3 independent adults who can attest to the fact that you can operate a vehicle safely.
That being said, there’s no reason not to get a drivers’ license. It’s a rite of passage and a good way to test yourself, to ensure you are truly safe. Then, once you have it, you can revoke it; or you can keep it and “travel” instead of “drive”. The point is not so much whether you have a drivers’ license; the point is what jurisdiction/capacity you were in at the time you are stopped by a cop. They will PRESUME you are in commercial jurisdiction and driving, but this is a PRESUMPTION of LAW, not a FACT of LAW. You can assert that you are in common law jurisdiction and traveling, regardless of whether you happen to own a license or not. It’s all about which capacity you are acting in.
In New Mexico, my daughter managed to get something included in her coporate-state-issued driver’s license(which she knows she’s not required to have, but a little too afraid not to), the words “without prejudice” in her own hand above her signature. The commercial statute enforcers, i.e., “police”, in New Mexico seem to be aware of what this means, as, whenever she has an “encounter” with one of them, they either let her go or deliberately don’t show up in “court”(this happened when one “cop” didn’t notice the writing on her “license” at time of illegal detention). These “cops” seem to be aware that “without prejudice” or any other statement of reservation of rights with a signature(UCC1-207 or etc.), voids the commercial jurisdiction of the action. And there is no way they want this admitted on public record in their “courts”, so cop either lets her go or doesn’t dare show up on the “court date”(causing automatic dismissal).
I tried to to that here in Texas and they made me fill out another form. One flaw with this is you can never rent a car.
Can they still fine you for no license?
They can try … but if you know how to defend yourself, no citation will be ably to stick to you, because to cite you for an alleged infraction, implies you have already agreed (through a contract like the State-issued drivers’ license) to follow all of their rules and regulations – which are commercial/corporate in nature. When you travel by right (instead of driving by privilege), you are not in the jurisdiction where you are bound by those regulations.
ToolsForFreedom.com has lots of great info on this in the sovereignty section. It’s well worth educating yourself.
Hi Makia, Thanks for all the great info. I am fighting my own licensing battle!! My driver’s license is currently on a one year suspension until I pay a fine of $600 by January 22, 2017 and they won’t reinstate until July 28th of 2017. Why might you ask???
Because I didn’t pay my bogus tickets totaling $345.00 by their due date in January 25th of 2016. My license then was suspended for 5 days when I got pulled me over for not having a valid inspection sticker. (expired in January) on a 4 year old regularly maintained vehicle that had 56000kms on it. I was in the process of trading to the dealership. I had to wait two weeks for the 2016 Honda civic (BEST CAR EVER) to arrive. I have no doubt that when I allow my suspended license and registration on the Honda to expire in Feb 2017, that I will get pulled over, my vehicle will be towed and I might get arrested (according to the threat on the documents)
I come from the city life to a small town where my family resides so I could have a quieter, less stressful life. I am a good person, no criminal history. I own a small reputable business in town for the last 6 years and have helped create part time jobs in the summer months. I have volunteered time and money while supporting a charity which I held an Executive position for two years. I am independent, not in a relationship and live on a single income, business is slow during the winter months. I’ve been pulled over maybe three times since I’ve been licensed in 1990. I have lived in Alberta, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick.
After moving here, I’ve been pulled over 4 times in the last five years!!! Twice by town bullies, twice by RCMP. One town bully cop in particular lied in court when I went to court to fight the two original bogus tickets… What an awakening that was! I was really pissed about the entire thing! Was found guilty and fined!! The other lied while he had me pulled over, he towed my car after I specifically told him I was leaving to have someone come get me and the car. He offered his phone, but I didn’t have my phone with me… I had no numbers to call as I don’t have any memorized, I declined and said I didn’t have any numbers (like most people now-a-days) When I walked back from a friends house nearby to the cop and my car… my car was already on the tow truck. This was in mid February of 2016 at 5:30pm. I was not at all dressed properly as I had just left work. He drove off, left me standing on the side of the road, in tears, after the tow truck left. I waited about 20 minutes before my ride came. That’s a long time when it’s cold outside. What I learned is that he had no concern whatsoever for my personal safety or welfare! I no longer have respect for the town police and after this experience I don’t trust them or the court system either. Education is the key. I believed paying for my house expenses and putting food in my fridge trumped paying the ticket fine a few days to a week later than the due date… on a sold vehicle. I’ve had enough! I will know how to fight back. Thanks to people like Rob Menard, Dean Clifford and yourself. I’ve learned so much. From now on, I will video record every police interaction I have. Looking forward to becoming a FREE WOMAN!!!
That’s the first thing one must learn. They do not care about you! I think all they see now is that you are paying their pay check and gonna get em a raise. They laugh at you when they lie and get you thrown in jail.
Love the informative article. I am interested in reading more cases that are similar in nature.
It’s amazing how many people were brainwashed into believing that driving is a privilege. The roads are paid for by the people, maintained by the people, and created by the people. Automobiles were paid for and built by the people. Therefore, the roads and vehicle’s belong to the people. Where in there does the government have to ability to just swoop in and say you need to ask them permission to drive on your roads that you built. The government cannot own anything, everything is the people’s. Making driving a privilege was just a way for government to monopolize the road ways and make it a cash cow for extorting money from citizens. If driving wasn’t a privilege they couldn’t put up roadblocks, tollways, have drivers license fees, registration fees, city sticker fees, license plate renewal fees,….etc. And let’s not forgot about all the tickets fines and lawyer fees that go along with all that in the courts. People need to stand up and say enough is enough. The constitution was created to limit power of the government because they knew governments always begin to become tyrannical at some point
Ahh but here is the crux Josh. DRIVING is a privlige. TRAVELLING is a right. when stopped by the police you must instist that you are traveling and not driving. DRIVING is the act of operating a motor vehichle for the purpose of commerce or business and THAT does require a license.
I was born on planet Earth. I should be able to live for free.
Hey there I read this and I was wondering I got a dui and they took my license away in Washington and I was wondering what would be the best way to tell the police officers I’m going to work??
I suggest printing out the case law contained in the article, keeping it in your glovebox and quoting it to any police officers when they try to claim you are “driving” instead of traveling.
How would this concept be able to apply to the registration and inspection of your vehicle, as well as being forced to have insurance? Does it mean that their requirement is voided as well?
Good question. I have heard of cases of some people successfully refusing to register and insure their vehicle, although with registration, you would be driving around with no plates, and you’re an easy target for cops. It would be very difficult to have them accept that. However, ultimately the issue of registration/insurance is a different issue to that of driving/traveling, because it’s all about capacity. You can drive or travel with the same vehicle and do each one at different times.
There are some who claim that registration inherently means signing over ownership of the item (e.g. vehicle) to the entity that is registering it, however Dean Clifford disputes that. I am still researching the truth of that and have not gotten to the bottom of it.
I’ve been looking into this quite a bit lately and reading a lot about people who have gotten pulled over with expired plates, licenses, and lapsed insurance, and are now asking how to get out of the tickets.
I think the main problem is that once you have any of these things, it is proof positive you are a driver.
From what I’ve been reading, and what I’ll be practicing as soon as my certificate of origin comes for my motorcycle is this; do not provide evidence to the police. You have not committed a crime.
Although you may think of an officer as a “public servant”, their job from the first moment of encounter with you is to build a case against you. They will examine you, interrogate you, and if you are cooperative, will get a confession from you without ever having to lift a finger.
When you get pulled over, you cannot say you were “just driving to work because I have to feed my kids” or “the insurance just expired two days ago”. You should be saying nothing but;
* “Am I being detained, or am I free to go?”
* If you are being detained – “I am exercising my 5th amendment right under the Constitution and will not be answering any questions and I am exercising my 4th amendment right under the Constitution and do not consent to a search of my person or belongings.”
There are many people who are being arrested for having false identification, forged documents, and other things to make them look legitimate, but they are just providing ammunition against themselves. Give them nothing. No plates, no insurance card, no passport, no credit cards, no last name.
You’re attempting to convince them you are not part of the establishment, but supplying evidence to the contrary.
Thanks for your comment. I have heard of some people having success with getting the “certificate of origin” for their vehicle. Your approach is certainly one of many possible sovereign/free man approaches. It doesn’t suit everyone, but I admire your bravery and commitment to the principle of the matter. Whoever uses this approach, however, needs to be prepared for the possibility they will get pushed around and maybe thrown in jail a few times.
I still maintain, however, that it’s all about capacity and the burden of proof is on them to PROVE you were driving rather than PRESUMING it. Factual proof will always trump presumptions of law … and it’s virtually impossible for them to prove such a thing.
Went to jail in Oklahoma, cop said no license is automatic jail. Then he trump up charges on me for resisting arrest and obstruction, because I asked for a supervisor. When I said you have no right to touch me he grabbed me out of the car and cuffed me.
I am on here because I seen a man tonight at a event his plate says FREEMAN. I asked him about it and he told me to start researching the constitutional right the right to travel and know what it all means. He has a suspended license and has been pulled over 3 times since he has this plate. He must really have this down packed because they let him go. I lost my license in 2002 and actually this week I have a hearing to try and ask for it back. But now that I have seen this, I dont know if I even want to do that. Since it is my right I should stand up for liberty. I only have a few days to decide, be like everyone else and play along with these color of laws or protect my rights. This is a hard one, kinda. I am looking to find that plate and print off that paper you suggested carrying. I wish I would have known this before. And also he does NOT pay for insurance either. Thanks for the info here. I think I will be calling for the catalog as well.
I was wondering what if i was driving a car that did not belong to me but was my fathers. I dont have a license and am not associated with the dmv. Can i still tell them that i am not driving and instead travelling even tho the vehicle is my fathers?
Yes. Whether you are driving or traveling is a separate issue from who owns the vehicle.
I recently was issused a citation to appear in court for Driving/Traveling While License Supended in Florida because of late payment on Child Support what wwould be my best defense in court.
I would write a letter to the judge, before the court date, challenging jurisdiction and asking them to prove you were driving not traveling. I have used this resource before successfully:
http://www.toolsforfreedom.com/Free-Online-Letter-Generator-p/8835.htm
Thanks
As with any persons or group that tries to assert their agenda by way of vague references to case law, you have not convinced me that those who have successfully challenged their citations did so by making the courts see the light.
I’m not trying to convince you to take this path. It’s a hard one, and it’s not for everyone. Information is information. Do with it what you will. There are two fundamental truths here:
1. The right to travel is a basic, unalienable human right, just as the right to exist, the right to breathe or the right to eat is;
2. Driving is a privilege (regulated under commercial/maritime jurisdiction) and traveling is a right which cannot, be definition, be regulated.
I quoted some case law to show how judges from all kinds of courts have upheld this right. I have also personally used this knowledge to successfully overturn fees and fines.
Do with the knowledge what you will. You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink it.
what if i have a dui and license infractions what would i do
As with my previous comment, this path is not for everyone. It is easier to just get a license. However, collectively, the less we stand up for rights and accept the Government turning them into privileges, the more we become enslaved, year by year. What kind of world do you want to leave behind for future generations?
Freedom requires knowledge, vigilance and courage. It has to be enforced by the public. It’s not going to just happen automatically. Without standing up for your rights or freedom, they will slowly disappear.
I have court tomorrow for knowingly traveling on a suspended driver’s license. I was wondering if I could use this article in my defense.
Under the circumstances, I was being a designated driver. My passenger, of whom is un-licensed; was intoxicated. I was not traveling erratically. When stopped, due to being unfamiliar with the new road pattern newly constructed, I was sitting on the “wrong side of the road”. The way the road was constructed … it looked as if at this particular light – right lane turns right, left lane turns left. I was in the left lane waiting for the light to change. The light also is not clearly viewable as you are sitting in the right lane.
I do plan to pay the fines to obtain my legal ID back (if I must). However, if found that my ID was confiscated without legal prudence, then I’d like to contest the charges and defend myself.
Thank you
State of Florida, U.S.A
I think you could use this defense. I would also suggest the information in item #8835:
http://www.toolsforfreedom.com/Free-Online-Letter-Generator-p/8835.htm
Remember, it is a presumption of law that you were driving (instead of traveling), not a fact of law. You need to challenge that presumption.
This is an interesting concept but seems pretty useless considering I’m not sure how tyrannical licensing drivers is. I think we can all agree the process to get one is pretty necessary, and once you have it for the most part you don’t have to think about it. The whole point is to ensure the driver is capable of operating a motor vehicle somewhat responsibly, is that really something you think most people should be jumping through legal loopholes to avert? Maybe I’m missing something, but it seems like some people are so eager to feel constitutionally empowered they forget what they’re arguing against is actually pretty reasonable. All it amounts to is a legal pissing contest with some asshole cop who’s doing his job, but you’re giving him a hard time just because you can.
Thanks for your comment. I do agree that safety is of paramount importance when operating motor vehicles. It’s too dangerous to have people using them without first getting to a high standard. So, I see part of the need why we have a licensing system.
However, the problem with the system is that it curbs your rights, makes you liable for silly “infringements” or “infractions”, puts you into the revenue extraction scheme (red light/speeding/seat belt citations) and puts you under the Government’s jurisdiction again. I refuse to be part of the Government’s nefarious schemes to control and make money off the citizenry they are supposedly there to serve and protect.
For the overwhelming majority of people, we know how to drive. After you have gone through the testing process, you don’t need any more testing. Why beg or ask the Government permission for something you can do naturally, anyway, such as traveling? That puts you in the position of being a subject, servant or slave. The more people do that, the more we give power to an entity that was only ever intended to be small, limited and decentralized – not the sprawling monstrosity it has become.
Thank you for the response. Being accountable for making driving errors that could potentially end lives or cause property damage doesn’t exactly equate to an infringement of rights. I’m not really sure what’s silly about any of the infractions you stated. All of those things have very clear and evident safety reasons for being enforced, even if they may sometimes seem frivolous. Furthermore they’re really easy to avoid along with “revenue extraction” or being under specific jurisdiction as you say. The government may be making money off of traffic violations, but that money also happens to be powerful incentive to impose imperative safety regulations. Any other reason is highly speculative.
“After you have gone through the testing process, you don’t need any more testing.”
Exactly, once you’ve passed the test, buckle your seat belt and keep it under 55 (or whatever), the government doesn’t care what you’re doing behind the wheel. You’re not “asking permission” you’re entering into a mutual agreement based on your desire to get from A to B and their desire to not see you plow into the side of some minivan because you ran a red light. I’m not sure how you draw such a straight line from “man, drivers licenses are a bummer” to shackles and chains but it’s impressive rhetoric. Also, if you really want to talk about travel, driving is only one of many forms of doing so and also happens to be one of the most accessible, dangerous, and therefore regulated. Do you really believe those things aren’t correlated precisely to each other and not the scheme of a “nefarious” government?
If you’re coming to this topic cold, the traveling vs. driving distinction may seem like exaggerated “rhetoric”, but in the overall scheme of things – as you can see by my work on The Freedom Articles and also on Tools For Freedom – it’s part of a grander conspiracy to transform the status of the masses from master (creator of Government) to slave (dominated by Government). This is just one more area where excessive regulation dominates. It is entirely possible to be responsible and accountable without needing laws, rules or excessive regulation. Something is really wrong when the Government is actually incentivized to trick and catch people on the roads to try to underhandedly get money from them. Furthermore, many of the “infractions” (e.g. not wearing your own seat belt, driving 5-10 miles more than the speed limit, etc.) are not necessarily dangerous to others. Government always uses the excuse of “safety” to further its centralization of control – just look at the crimes committed by tyrants who claimed they wanted to bring “peace, order and security” to their nation (e.g. Hitler) or hide secrets from the public under the rubric of national security.
“Exactly, once you’ve passed the test, buckle your seat belt and keep it under 55 (or whatever), the government doesn’t care what you’re doing behind the wheel.”
Yes it does – it insists you carry a valid license or else it revokes your privilege of driving. That’s the whole point. Why should Government have so much power it can revoke what is really a right? The Founding Fathers set things up so that rights were unalienable and could not be regulated … but it takes an aware and educated populace to know and enforce that.
I am fairly new to the concept of our right to travel. While reading the conversation between you and Andy I fell there is something left out. In my readings I have come to the understanding that we have a right to travel that cannot be restricted by any law (i.e. license) as long as we are not being employed as a driver (i.e. taxi driver). However, correct me if I’m wrong, I believe you can impose safety measures like speed limits and stop lights for public interest. That being said they cannot stop you from traveling on the road but can cite you for doing so unsafely. The more I read about the right to travel, the more I agree with it. But I still believe we need these safety measures or else traveling will become far more dangerous than it already is.
Thanks for your comment. You make a fair point. When a Government imposes restrictions based on a genuine care for the safety and security of the public, I think most people are fine with that and would readily accept it. However, I believe most people have an inherent idea of safety and common sense, and it is questionable how much we need a Government to step in and regulate these things.
The problem arises when power-hungry leaders gain control of the political apparatus and use the excuse of “public safety” and “national security” ad nauseam to control people. That is the atmosphere in which we live – an out of control Government and military-intelligence-industrial-complex that gets away with anything by using the trite excuse of national security.
The excessive rules that are supposedly for our “safety” are just an excuse for the government to bleed more money from the public.
Please Help me!!!!! I’ve just been arrested and charged for driving while license permanately revoked in the state of Florida. It carries a max of 5 years of prison and $5000 fine. I have a good job and was merely traveling to feed my family. I am revoked permanately. Please reply with guidance of how to exercise my legal rights and avoid this costly mess as much as possible. Where can I find an attorney that will represent me based on this defense. Is it required I defend myself. Please advise.
So you really think that buckling your seat belt should be regulated be the government? You think the government cares if something happens to you behind the wheel or not? Like a police officer friend of mine told me, all these little frivolous laws like no seat belt, one headlight out, air freshener hanging, are only there to be used as probable cause to pull you over in the first place. Once stopped, the “real investigation” begins. Last week, the Texas U.S Circuit of appeals just deemed that police have the right to pull you over for air fresheners, rosaries, and pro police stickers because they’re deemed to be accompanied with suspicious activity. It’s crazy how many people will always let their rights be trampled on because the government tells them they need to keep them safe. Instead of enacting all these frivolous laws based on what might’ve happened, harsher laws should possibly be made for someone causing property/ bodily injury to somebody while exercising their rights, if deemed they were being irresponsible. I guess, even though it’s happened all throughout history, government’s always become tyrannical at some point, but even with a document that’s written to protect the people from it, people will always want to oppress themselves anyway and still call it freedom. Seems people want to be ruled and told what they can or can’t do, instead of actually taking responsibility for themselves
U like paying money for going over speed limit ? Well I don’t so remember some people are different
“For the overwhelming majority of people, we know how to drive”
Allow me to laugh long and hard. ahah ah aha a hah a ha haha ah ah a
So now please do educate us how government shills, in collusion with Big Insurance, patrol the streets, forcing people to run traffic lights, text spam to distract the real true experts driving well within the speed limit, hand how virtually no insurance claims are really filed, beings how virtually everyone is a good driver”
Sure, the people of Abuja, Nigeria, know how to drive, too. They just disregard all traffic law and signs. No lights, no brakes, no insurance, four people crammed on a moped… yeah, they got it all figured out…
We must fight for our right to do whatever, too…
Nobody is saying that you shouldn’t have to prove you’re able to drive a vehicle. The point is, it isn’t the government’s job to baby sit and be in control of who’s responsible or not. To assume that you need a driver’s license, just assumes that everybody is automatically irresponsible. Part of having your rights and freedoms means people have to take responsibility for themselves. When you give away a right for exchange of a privilege, the government will always abuse it. Some states automatically suspend your license for speeding through a school zone. I bet you almost everybody who ever gets caught speeding, don’t know they are even in a school zone. So how is it fair for somebody to lose their right to travel to work because of a victimless crime. I also believe in Virginia, they were trying to make it illegal to get your license if you had a failing grade in high school. The government did not build the roads, it was bought and paid for by the people. People are so eager to give away their liberties for the promise of safety from the government. Truth is, licensing is only required because it’s a cash cow for the state. You really think the government gives a damn if you’re safe on the roads or not? Governments plan their budgets on you not being safe (writing tickets), so therefore, it’d be contradiction of their interest.
The government isn’t “babysitting” anything, it’s not as if there’s a cop sitting in your back seat every time you get behind the wheel. They’re enforcing a very reasonable set of restrictions that happens to include a license, which is very simple to earn and maintain provided the driver is not totally negligent. The government’s assumption you need a drivers license is due to the fact that you weren’t born knowing how to physically or mentally operate a motor vehicle, and therefore should have to be tested on those abilities before you’re granted one. Responsibility doesn’t even really enter into the equation except as a lecture from your parents.
“Part of having your rights and freedoms means people have to take responsibility for themselves.”
Rights and freedoms have nothing to do with whether you know how to properly signal a lane change or not.
“When you give away a right for exchange of a privilege, the government will always abuse it.” Not even sure what that means but either way it’s highly rhetorical. To me abuse is like, a parent hitting their kid or something, what are you talking about?
“Some states automatically suspend your license for speeding through a school zone. I bet you almost everybody who ever gets caught speeding, don’t know they are even in a school zone.” Pesky school kids, rum ’em over I say! I’ve never once had a problem understanding whether I was in a school zone or not. Yellow sign, speed limitation, often times flashing lights or even a speed trap. What’s the confusion? The penalty is fair because dead children are sort of a liability I guess. The law doesn’t always deal in the identification of a “victim,” often times it involves preventive measures which, like it or not happen to keep people from dying or being injured.
No the government did not single-handedly build or pay for the roads, but they did delegate the people who did and also organized and dispersed the funds to do so. Just like Steve Jobs didn’t build Apple he made it possible for others to do so.
“People are so eager to give away their liberties for the promise of safety from the government.”
Again, what’s with the extraneous rhetoric? How do you go from a driver’s license requirement to “the British are coming.”
“Truth is, licensing is only required because it’s a cash cow for the state.” I don’t even know how much a license cost these days but I don’t seem to remember the price being anything out of hand. How does that even enter into cash cow territory? Seems like it would just go back into the overhead of their shitty employees.
“You really think the government gives a damn if you’re safe on the roads or not?” Yeah I do. Believe it or not, all of the people’s jobs in government positions whether they may be local or otherwise are contingent upon results i.e. people’s lives, property damage, etc. Yes, governments plan their budgets around taxation, and tickets happen to sort of fall under that category. It’s sort of like cigarette smoking. No one gets excited when people die of lung cancer, but fools are going to do it anyway so you might as well make a little money off it and possibly turn a few people off in the process.
Wow, wouldn’t even know where to start with this guy. Some of your points make no sense because you clearly didn’t understand the comment. Also unbelievable how scary brainwashed you are
Andy must be an old lady…willing & ready to give up ‘her’ rights, in favor of safety.
I think that it was Benjamin Franklin who said “those, who are willing to give up their liberty for safety, deserve neither”, and he was right.
You’re the one thats brainwashed. If you believe anything written on this website you’re brainswashed. That is the sad truth of it, you may not like it, you may not believe it, but these freeman, sovereign citizens, got into your head and brainwashed you. That’s what brainwash means, someone or something, made you believe in something completely false. You can argue your “god given right” and shit, but driving and traveling and completely unrelated things. To operate (sit in driver’s seat and steer) a vehicle (a big box with 4 wheels that you sit it, I’ll keep it simple for you) on any public roads is not the same as being able to travel, which is the free movement between states. Traveling has nothing to do with driving.
Jeremy, I take offense to that statement for every old lady out there. Eventually we will all be old and looking forward to the comforts of life in our mounting years but when that day inevitably comes for me… I will still not agree with Andy 😉
How many people you know that got a license to drive and can’t The driving test ain’t even hard my son is twelve and I know he can pass it my parents taught me to drive it’s our responsibility to teach our children some don’t. But how dose a road block protect me from people who can’t drive they suppend them for child support how do I get to work if I can’t drive I’m in Douglasville ga there are no buses if I can’t get to work I can’t pay anything yes some people will always abuse rights but what about abusing authority
I’ve had my license before. Pulled over for a headlight out four years ago, didn’t have insurance because I was 20, living paycheck to paycheck already and couldn’t afford any more bills. I got a $550 ticket for not having it. I’ve still never been able to pay for this because living check to check hasn’t changed. Because this went unpaid my license was suspended and I’ve been stopped 5 times since then, each ticket amounting to more and more. Each time I was stopped was for either a head/tail light being out or having expired tabs or no valid insurance and driving without a valid license. They’ve got me owing them around $5500 now before I can even renew my license and I’m still not making enough money to even eat three meals a day, let alone start paying fines that I don’t feel are fundamentally right. This article isn’t to encourage people to not go through the proper testing and training (I did drivers ed and I am an extremely safe traveler), it’s for people who have been bullied into owing money they’ll never have to the government so we can still be able to get to work and actually know our rights in doing so. If you really think about what I’ve told you, I owe over $5000 to the government simply for having a headlight out four years ago. That is not right in any way, and up until reading this article I had no idea I could have contested these.
Thank you for sharing this. Thank you also for seeing that the article is written for people not to be bullied. Good luck with your situation.
How would this apply if your licence is suspended
Were you caught on the roads with a suspended license? If so, you need to argue you were traveling not driving at the time of the alleged infraction. If you want to use the roads and your license is suspended, I would suggest giving us a call (1800-770-8802 x4) for an alternative travel idea.
I have applied for and lost the use of my driver’s license. Do I still have the right to travel in my personal vehicle? If not how do I get this back?
You always have your natural, unalienable rights. They never disappear. They are like a turtle shell you carry with you everywhere you go. You just haven’t been exercising them.
If you are doing commerce on the roads (e.g. truck driver, taxi, etc.) you need a license. Otherwise, if you are traveling in a private capacity, you don’t. I would suggest giving us a call (1800-770-8802 x4) for an alternative travel idea.
Hey this was very informative to me, one question I am 17 currently living on my own, I have been for 3 years now and also have no way of getting my license because I cannot get parental consent. If I were to (travel) would it be considered an illegal offense seeing how I am a minor? I need a way to get to work I have a vehicle but am scared to drive-(travel) without a license. My work is literally 2 minutes driving from my house. I do as minimal driving as possible to get away from being caught but the day is going to come eventually I know it. Please help me and inform me of this! thank you!
Great article and great discussion. I come at this from a non-US (Australian) perspective. I wonder if in a country where it is considered a right (not a privilege) to bear arms, it becomes very hard to argue that it is not also a right to drive a car. Both pursuits are potentially lethal. It seems US citizens will accept the price in gun violence in order to maintain their gun rights. Maybe US citizens should also accept the price in road fatalities that will come from not regulating who can drive.
On an ultimate level, the inherent rights of every human are universal and not dependent on which country you happen to inhabit. I discussed this concept further here:
https://thefreedomarticles.com/we-all-have-inherent-rights/
Society accepts a certain of risk in exchange for freedom. We all know there is a chance we could die every time we step into a car or fly on a plane, but we assess the risk to be low enough that we are willing to take that chance in order for increased mobility, opportunity, freedom and convenience. This goes for guns too – although stats show that nations with tighter gun control than the US (like the UK) actually have higher murder rates, because people are less likely to be armed in self-defense (http://crimepreventionresearchcenter.org/2013/12/murder-and-homicide-rates-before-and-after-gun-bans/).
The question here is this: is there a connection between a lower rate of road fatalities and Government-regulated drivers’ licenses? There is in the area of revoking licenses of those who drink alcohol and drive (although these people are the irresponsible statistical outliers). But outside of that, I doubt there is a significant connection. Meanwhile, the licensing system has become a devious means to set up a control grid to entrap people in revenue extraction schemes which have everything to do with stealing money from citizens – and nothing to do with safety, although it is a noble-sounding pretext for government-sanctioned robbery.
Like many people have said here, taking a driver’s license test DOES NOT create safe or even safer drivers. I know people who passed their drivers test, pulled out of the lot and promptly caused accidents! The ONLY way humans really learn anything is, by doing it, Hands-on.
To those of us (myself included) that are facing traffic & criminal court dates because of past run-ins with the Traffic Nazi’s, remember that freedom is something to fight for. We all get nervous going before the leviathan of government but, remember, the Courts are The Servant, WE ARE THE PEOPLE!! The Courts serve US, not the other way around!
Now, GO FORWARD & SERVE ON THE FRONT LINES OF FREEDOM AS A FREEMAN!!
Ya the joke is you can speed / drive without a licence till you get caught!?!?! Like anything else … you are right that it can be different breaking the law at 17 (minor) than breaking it as an adult (but the judge can try you as “an adult” as we see from time to time!
That said its not the driving that’s the issue here, its driving without insurance … who knows what happens if you get in an accident without insurance (and you are at fault) … do without the car or if its only two minutes away … bike for now !!!
I’ve lost my license and won’t be able to get a replacement for a few days at least. My question is, does a minor have the right to travel? A 17 year old?
Good question. I do not know the answer. I would assume that as long as you as completely capable and proficient in operating a motor vehicle safely, you would be able to exercise your right to travel, but that is an assumption on my part. You could try giving us a call at 1800-770-8802 x4 for alternative travel ideas.
I have to agree with you. Your articles here are right. I live in Pennsylvania and I never got a license in my life. I was pulled over for traveling 5 times in my life. It’s all a money scheme for courts and government. Each time I get pulled over they tack another year on my suspension. Now how can they suspend a license I never had? Please send me a link I can print of to keep in my vehicle while I’m traveling to show the next officer that I have the right to travel. Thanks for your information!
Great article, but I have to wonder: where have you traveled? The globe is covered with armed nazi checkpoints. I know “papers please” in a few languages. My daughter at age 0 was almost kept from her mother (only allowed to remain after extensive costs) because “visa not approved” when we traveled to: the UK. This is as spoiled middle class academics mind you. I know plenty who are separated from their families for decades because travel (not driving mind you) is universally considered valid control of fascist state. Right now millions of people are unable to go where they need to for work and family. Thousands are in tears at this moment. And yet people still talk of “enforcing immigration” by preventing travel. Yes, we have the “right to travel” as you say but right now not a single established legal system in the world honors this right, and every one of them honors the right of uniformed fascists to prevent you from traveling!!! Garry Davis RIP had the right idea. Anyway, keep up the good work I will return to read your column.
While I agree that most places people would not get away with traveling without a license, in the united states of America, we’ve got the high joker – The Constitution. Until the day our government takes the last of our weapons, admits that we’re all sharecroppers, we can’t own land, and our money is worthless, they have to keep up the charade that we’re still operating under Constitutional law.
Until martial law is declared, let’s just have some good ole’ fun.
My license is currently suspended after being involved in a car accident. I am also a person with a disability, whose civil rights were violated by the police and state. Unfortunately, I hired what I thought was competent representation, however, I was provided no defense. I am unable to get a restricted drivers license, as the charge of leaving the scene disqualifys me. Even though my life was threatened with a gun, which is what resulted in me leaving, and I was forced to plead guilty to avoid jail, according to my “attorney.” I would only need to drive my car to get to and from work, as I live and work in the suburbs, where public transportation is not readily available. Is there any way around this, so I am able to “travel” to work? What if I’m on parole and get pulled over for no license? Will that legally result in breaking the conditions of parole? We’ve reached out to my state governors office, who unfortunately has no jurisdiction with the PA DOT, so they were unable to provide me with any help. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much!
Hi Justin, Thanks for your comment and sorry to hear about your situation. I cannot give “legal advice”. You are always within your rights to travel, as long as you are not driving, which is a privilege regulated in commercial, admiralty jurisdiction. You will have to be prepared to defend your position to police officers and potentially judges. To do that successfully, you need to keep educating yourself about law, rights and sovereignty so you gain confidence.
What if I am not a us citizen and only a F1 visa student and thus a temporary visitor? Does what you say also apply?
The laws are generally written to apply to “US persons”, meaning citizens and permanent residents. Coming in on a visa necessarily means you have contracted with the US Government and agreed to abide by all its laws, so it’s going to be harder to assert the right to travel. If you choose this, I would expect there to be more resistance from cops and judges than with an average American.
However, on an ultimate level, the right to travel is a universal human right, regardless of where you live, as I wrote about here:
https://thefreedomarticles.com/we-all-have-inherent-rights/
Love this blog and am ALL about standing up for my rights! I’m tired of everyone allowing the government to control EVERYTHING about us. I’m not here to argue with any of you who are more than happy to continue allowing this to happen, I’m solely here because I’ve been following these blogs for AWHILE now. Yes, they check out and have very supportive FACTS! I, unfortunately, have been fighting with the state of Illinois for eight years now. EIGHT!! Yes, I traveled while intoxicated one time when I was 17. Four years and eight months later I was pulled over after helping a friend move. We stopped at a bar and he wanted to buy me a couple drinks for helping. I refused as I had work very early the next morning. I eventually ended up having ALMOST 3 beers and had a cop waiting for my truck to leave the bar. I made a bad name for myself when I was younger and take full responsibility for it. I changed after serving hard time which this was after that. I misconstrued the law and thought it was OK to travel after a couple beers and yea, definitely did not account for the ZERO tolerance. Whatever, once again I paid my dues and here I am eight and a half years later still fighting for my license! I’ve dumped I don’t even know how much money into this. I seriously want to just give up on tryin to travel myself, but then there’s this. My spirits are lifted, again. My dilemma is, Yea I have a right to travel freely. What about when I’m revoked? And now I DO have a great job opportunity as a linesman apprentice. They work on power lines, which as we all know requires traveling throughout the state or counties really. Is there a way to get this joke of a system under control so I can get my CDL for work?? How can I lose my opportunity to profit from the road if I have never been able to profit from using the road? I mean technically I lost somethin that never existed, correct?
On another note, if you do return your ID back to the DMV and revoke your contract (which obviously they NEVER tell you you’re doing) how do you go about buying a car, house, smokes, or anything that requires your picture ID showing you and your age? Is that where your passport comes into play, and if so, what if someone were on legal papers (parole, probation, etc) and can’t get a passport? I’m all for doing this to the fullest, but I also want to make sure I can still live my life as needed while doing so. Public transportation is not around for me and I’ve LITERALLY walked over USVI mountains to get to work. But my body can’t take the abuse anymore and am on workman’s comp as I speak. I just want to go through life living the way we were meant to, and be on my pursuit of happiness. Can you give insight on this Makia, or is this state, as all lawyers have called this state, the “nightmare state” gonna hinder me from that always? Pleeeeaaaase help. Thank you
Thanks for your comment. It’s saddening to hear stories such as this. Unfortunately I don’t see an easy solution. You can try traveling not driving, but if your job requires a license, it’s going to be difficult to get around that. In your case it may be better to try to get a State-issued license. You can use other ID like a passport or State ID card in situations that require a picture ID. I would suggest contacting the authorities and seeing what you have to do to get another driver’s license – or getting one in another county, state or even country if you can.
Great discussion!! Ok, so as a Canadian, I’m understanding that all humans have the inalienable right to travel, regardless of country of residence. I’m curious if you know what laws I need to familiarize myself with in order to travel (albeit temporarily) with an accidentally expired license??
I didn’t even know it was expired – it only expired over the long weekend. And now to my amazement, upon reading the MTO website, I have been informed that they desire to make me start my license process all over again, pay all previously paid fees again, then pay to renew the license, then pay to renew the plates, then pay to renew insurance. It is for these reasons that I completely detest the tyranny of our governments.
I seem to gather from the comments, that upon registering your vehicle, you’re basically signing your property over to them. Is this true? Does this entitle them to impounding my vehicle? Can I use the “right to travel” with an expired licence in the meantime of trying to come up with all the necessary money to renew it? If so which Canadian law should I refer to and be informed in?
Check out the work of Dean Clifford. He’s a Canadian who successfully uses the right to travel. See the video embedded above in this article where Dean quotes Canadian law.
There are different opinions on registration. Some say registration means signing over the rights to the property being registered. Others say that is not true. The best way to know would be to read the definition of register in Black’s Law Dictionary, but more importantly, in the actual code or law passed. It could be defined differently in each law (such are the tricks of the Law Society). Most laws define key terms before getting into the nuts and bolts.
I have a revoked license in Illinois do these laws apply to me
The principles in this article apply to anyone, no matter where you live.
These articles have been extremely helpful. Just wondering with my situation, I have payed fines up to $1100, and yet still my license has been suspended. Do you think I would be able to fight those fines with my right to travel for defense and maybe get a refund?
You could try. It may be too late, but see what you can do. You would have to launch an appeal and claim you wrong entered the wrong jurisdiction due to deliberate fraud and deception on their part.
Soooo if a license is only required if you are using your vehicle for commerce or business, then wouldn’t a license be required to simply use it to travel back and forth for work? In that aspect, the vehicle is indeed being used for business purposes. Work!.. it is business. Hence, business days. There are five business days in a week ;). However, not everyone drives to and from work due to unemployment, so in that aspect, I don’t agree with licenses.
Traveling for leisure, or personal galavanting is another matter.
My understanding is that when you drive to and from work, you are not actually working until you arrive.
I stopped at a convenience store coming home from work. A state trooper was in parking lot when came out of store and got into my vehicle and drove off the officer got in behind me and thrower his lights on and pulled me over door no reason and wrote me a ticket for driving on revoked license I did nothing wrong to be pulled over can I use this legal law to get out of the driving on revoked
Yes I think you could. It all hinges on you arguing that you were not driving but were traveling at the time of the “alleged” infraction. Sounds like they were trying to trap you and extract revenue from you.
Thanks for this article. It helps tremendously. As far as registration and insurance are concerned, are we covered by these rights as well? Any information on this would be appreciated.
Registration and insurance are more difficult to deal with. Trying to go without registration completely (as some have done, such as “free men” in Montana) will attract unwanted attention. If you want to try to anonymize yourself, you can get a Common Law Pure Trust and find someone to act as a trustee, go to the DMV and register the car in the name of the trust. You could also be an occasional driver on someone else’s insurance.
However, you could also get normal registration and insurance. Just because you possess these is not proof you are always in commercial jurisdiction. It’s a question of capacity. In what capacity were you acting at the time of the alleged infraction? You can always argue you were privately traveling (not commercially driving), even if you have plates and insurance.
I think the right to travel vs drive argument is invalid. Traffic regulation isn’t mentioned in the Constitution therefore the power generally falls to the States pursuant to the 10th Amendment,
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.”
So, it has long been accepted by the federal government that traffic regulation is a proper exercise of State police power. Federal courts uphold the ability of States to regulate road traffic provided it is done so with equality, resonableness and for the public good and doesn’t violate any federal laws or rights.
All 50 States have seen fit to devise and enact their own traffic codes and police them. If you want to review some Federal court decisions, please review Hendrick v Maryland 235 US 610, Hess v Pawloski 274 US 352, and Reitz v Mealey 314 US 33. These are three solid federal Supreme Court decision that set nationwide precedent that cannot be ignored.
There are always two sides to every argument. Yes, we need traffic laws because we live in a society of irresponsible people. If everybody agreed to be responsible then we wouldn’t need as many rules, but if people don’t, then you need a system to keep people in check.
However, those who know how to extricate themselves from admiralty jurisdiction can enjoy a higher degree of freedom because they have displayed the wisdom and courage to earn it. Those who choose to operate within admiralty jurisdiction do so because they think they are supposed to. Both systems exist.
There are always two sides to every story, the problem is the side that claims you can drive without a license, and it be completely legal, is false. The court cases cited, not one of them actually touches on the topic of a states right to reasonably enact traffic codes that contribute to public safety. This includes licensing and holding insurance etc.
The following court case is from the United States Supreme Court:
Hendrick v. Maryland 235 US 610 (1915)
The movement of motor vehicles over the highways is attended by constant and serious dangers to the public, and is also abnormally destructive to the ways themselves . . . In the absence of national legislation covering the subject a State may rightfully prescribe uniform regulations necessary for public safety and order in respect to the operation upon its highways of all motor vehicles — those moving in interstate commerce as well as others. And to this end it may require the registration of such vehicles and the licensing of their drivers . . . This is but an exercise of the police power uniformly recognized as belonging to the States and essential to the preservation of the health, safety and comfort of their citizens.
States have the right, under their police powers to enact and enforce these laws. What these websites never want to admit is that the courts are not subject to legal definitions other than the ones that they use. So states have the right to define what “traveling” is, they also have the right to define what a “motor vehicle” is. Every other legal book with definitions is not valid, only the definitions within a state’s particular traffic code are valid.
Now we can argue that it isn’t OK for states to do this but it is the law of the land. This has been decided by the only entity that is allowed to interpret constitutional law, and that is the Supreme Court.
So if you decide to drive without a license, you may be fined, even jailed for refusing to give it up, if you don’t have insurance, you will be fined. If you’re ok with that then please continue, but you have to recognize that the State’s have a right to place traffic laws within their borders.
There are many other Supreme Court cases that hold to this point, the ones that are posted in this article are invalid because they touch the real issue as mentioned earlier in my comment.
Again, as I said in my previous comment, there are 2 systems/jurisdictions in place: common law and commercial/maritime/admiralty law. Commercial law is composed of Acts, Statutes, Regulations, Code, Policy, etc. – all which claim to be “law” but are really just rules that govern certain societies. If you are not a part of that society, those rules do not apply to you. Remember the definition of statute: a rule which has the force of law with the consent of the governed. If you do not give your consent, the statute no longer has the force of law.
Yes, the States made traffic rules – all statutes. Commercial, statutory law does not apply to someone traveling privately! Many courts have upheld this. I have personally had situations overturned, and helped others have their cases dismissed, based on this knowledge.
Think about it: how can you be charged under commercial/criminal statutes for the “crime” of not wearing a seat belt or not carrying a license? Every crime must have a victim who can prove damage was done to him with malicious intent. Where is the malicious intent? Where is the provable damage? Where is the victim?
By the way, the tenth amendment gave any power not explicitly given to the Federal Government back to the States and the People – not just the States. Where do the States get their power? The people. The people are always the source of power for any government. Everything comes back to the consent of the governed. All their “law” or really just rules are based upon you agreeing to enter that jurisdiction and give them your consent.
Makia,
Thank you for responding to my comment, I greatly appreciate you taking the time to respond. I would like to bring up a couple of things in response…
Your division between common law and commercial law is a common division, but:
1. Common law was received by the individual State governments (former colonies) via reception statutes, clearly subject to the local State constitutions and legislatures (the same legislatures that make the highway codes). State legislation, such as the highway code, made by democratically-elected-and-influenced representatives of the people, is in fact the law of the land and unable to be avoided. The federal Constitution, laws and courts offer no protection for your imagined right to travel unregulated. My previous post shows the Supreme Court saying residents and non-residents, commercial and non-commercial activity on the highways may be regulated by the States for public safety.
Your statement, in the previous post, was that the people have the power. This is true, but we the people elect officials, they act on behalf of us. That’s how a democracy works. So the argument of being charged under commercial law doesn’t hold any water. I don’t deny that the defenses that you state in your article won’t work, but I am saying that as the law is interpreted there is no clear way of dividing the “travel” vs “driving” definitions. I would assume that most people that drive without a license do so in a very safe manner, but when caught it would appear that you don’t have a very firm foundation on which to stand.
Again thank you for your response.
Hi Kevin, I understand that reception statutes were used to harmonize the law, take in all the common law, and place them under the umbrella of the Constitution and statutory law – but does that mean common law has ceased to exist, or that there is no such thing as common law jurisdiction? Judging by the amount of people still successfully claiming common law jurisdiction in courts today, I would say the evidence suggests not.
For further analysis on this topic, I suggest Johnny Liberty’s book The Global Sovereign Handbook. In it he writes a sample oral defense a citizen may use:
“CITIZEN: “Your honor, the Constitution authorizes two criminal jurisdictions for the court. One of these is Common law. But under the Common law there must be a corpus delecti or damaged party before the court can recognize any
jurisdiction. This cannot be a Common law action because there is no sworn complaint from a damaged party. Therefore this court does not have a criminal jurisdiction under Common law.” (If the judge replies that this is a
Common law court, then demand a “Bill of Particulars.”)
“The only other criminal jurisdiction authorized for the court is the breech of an International Maritime Contract under the criminal aspects of an Admiralty jurisdiction. I’m not aware of having ever entered any maritime contracts, so I deny that any exist. Can you tell me what jurisdiction the court is exercising in the action against me?”
Hi, Makia, i appreciate all your efforts. You are amazing to me.
I live in Ontario, Canada and am becoming more and more frustrated everyday, with each interaction i have with local authorities.
Essentially, after viewing that man’s video at the gas station, i see i have much work to do-learning all the legalities behind “common-law” law, but, who determines that a free person must even adhere to such laws as common-law, and why(you’re own personal opinion) you think we should?
Thank you so much
James
Also, i was pulled over for driving without plates, though i had a 10 day trip permit. I have a license, sin card, health card, passport and birth cirtificate: can i present myself in court as administrator or agent for my first and last name and claim common law jurisdiction or would that be a double-minded act and fail me in court?
Thank you
Yes you can. The first thing you need to assert upon beginning in court is jurisdiction. It is vital that you establish the difference between the living, breathing you (under common law jurisdiction) and the corporate, capital-letters you (under commercial/admiralty jurisdiction).
Good question. Common law came out of some very basic needs/desires for people to feel safe. Some say common law is really just 3 things: don’t hurt another, don’t damage another’s property, and don’t use mischief in your agreements with another. That’s it.
As long as you live responsibly, no one will have much cause to complain against you … but if they do, the idea was that common law could resolve any disputes peacefully.
Of course, common law is the antithesis to our current commercial, statutory law which consists of hundreds of thousands of “laws” or regulations on the books. Quite a sizable portion are laws against something, but where there is no actual victim. It makes no sense to declare something a crime when there is no provable criminal/malicious intent, no damage and no injured party.
The bottom line is this: if you are not harming anyone, what is the basis for the Government hassling you? It has no authority to protect you from yourself (e.g. by claiming you must wear a seatbelt). Tyranny begins when the Government becomes a Nanny and tries to tell you how to live your life in every little detail.
Thank you so! And, after I assert myself as coming from common law jurisdiction and a separate entity from the corporate name I hold administrator to, what are my requests?
Thank you, Makia
That the statutes and regulations cannot possibly apply to “you” as a living, breathing man, and only to legal fictions like corporations, and that therefore the case be dismissed with prejudice and you be free to go.
Getting the case dismissed with prejudice means it is over and done with, once and for all, and can’t be brought back to court.
Sweet!
I thank you for that piece of peace of mind> Makia.
Wouldn’t they just rack the fine up anyway against to corporate card I hold that is property of the province(Drivers License) and, eventually, once I was pulled over next with a license that had been suspended due to fines seize my seize my license and potentially my vehicle or…?
Thank you
They can only proceed with the case if you agree to step into corporate jurisdiction. The whole idea is to trick you into being the corporate self, rather than the breathing living human, against whom corporate by-laws do not apply.
I hear you and I really, really wish you weren’t wrong. But unfortunately THE STATE OWNS THE CAR. And the state can regulate and control that which it owns. So if the State requires a D/L to make THEIR PROPERTY TRAVEL DOWN THE ROAD, it is not infringing on your rights. It is just regulating its property.
Now the big question is how do we get ownership of the car?
I have read different opinions about “registration”. Some say when you register, you sign over ownership or title to the item being registered; others say that you retain ownership and it is merely a recording.
Do you have definitive evidence that registering your car means giving up ownership of it? If so, can you point me in the direction of it?
Your signature is your contract.strawman.you are nothing but collateral to the gov.as those that died in 9/11 written off as Collateral Damage’we’re just comercial guinea pigs to gov not human beings.they are the criminals
The state doesn’t own your car. If you bought your car it is yours.
Is this possible in EU.
I do not know for sure. The right to travel is a universal human right. Every EU nation has a different set of laws, so you would need to find the equivalent of “common law” in that particular country.
Forgive me for coming out of left field with this but….. wouldn’t the unalienable human right of traveling mean that technically an illegal immigrant is allowed to travel, since no regulation can be put on traveling, wouldn’t that mean regulations of any kind, like citizenship is regulated……
Perhaps. There are people who believe that, and organizations like those promoting there World Passport which are based on this idea. However, the right to travel bumps up against the right to private property. You can move freely, but that doesn’t mean you can go on someone’s else’s land without permission.
I had a motorcycle accident on way home a year ago.didnt hurt no-one or nothing(other than me and MY motorcycle)no-one was around.I just found out I have a warrant for no motorcycle license and expired license.they also wrote me up for unsafe speed which I was doing the speed limit.I reported it on way to hospital via my wife cause I didn’t want to be charged with leaving the scene.the county I reside in told me right to travel was nonsense.HELP ME TEACH THEM PLEASE!
What most Americans FAIL to understand is, they have been brain washed. Brain washed to believe things that are NOT true and never WERE true. Just about everything you think is true, IS NOT.
No American can be compelled to do anything. Especially anything contrary to his or her best interests.
These people telling you you must do this or that have a motive. That motive is control and revenue.
The rotten fact is, the very government you believe in, isn’t a government at all. It’s a corporation, like Wal-Mart and ALL governmental services agencies; State, Municipal or Federal are NOT legitimate branches of government. The government of 1776 was suspended on March 27, 1861 when the southern states walked out of Congress. A new, secretive corporate government was established July 9th, 1868. Since then of new agencies will state, federal and local cropped up. But these are not constitution departments of government.
They are administrative, regulatory enforcement agencies enforcing not laws, but legislative codes. The DMV for example is the the administrative office of code pertaining to Motor Vehicles. But do you even know what motor vehicle is? Chances are, you don’t. Do you own or drive one? Not likely, unless you transport property or passengers for hire over the public roadway..
In America, our earliest ancestors came to escape the tyrannical bounds of feudalism of Europe, but believe me brother or sister, you people are now in deeper bondage than you can even imagine. You are a slave. And a slave can own nothing.
Untrue? Tell me ONE thing of value you own with no further encumbrance. House? Nope! Bank lien, property taxes, easements,
insurance payments, code enforcements.
Your car? Hardly. When you purchase a new car, the original manufacturers title, the MCO/ MSO is handed over the state to be digitally cataloged and then destroyed. You never even see it. But you paid for it. The State then issues you a “color of title”, which is a State granted permission (privilege) to possess the car so long as you make the bank payments, keep insurance payments up to date and pay property taxes.
Your children? Nope. More and more people are finding their children being taken away over the slightest grievance by government never to be seen again.
So, what IS your property?
Are you getting the gist here?
In fact, according to your friendly government, “The ultimate ownership of [ALL] property is in the State; individual so-called “ownership” is only by virtue of government, i.e., law, amounting to mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State.” Senate Document #43; Senate Resolution No. 62 (Page 9, Paragraph 2) April 17, 1933.
It was by certain seminal congressional acts from the mid 1800’s since that are not taught in any school that we have been deceived and deprived of the unalienable and constitutional Right of Liberty and had these unlawful acts foisted upon us;
(1) so-called Civil or municipal rights,
(2) rules and regulations (statutes), which are NOT law by State legislatures as adjuncts of the Federal corporate government.
and,
(3) municipal (Roman civil) law in our courts, instead of the Common law upon which our nation was founded.
This ALL being a SAD state of affairs abhorrent to the Founding Fathers and Framers of the Constitution for which they all risked their lives and fortunes to escape and keep their posterity free . (That would be you!)
But the truth is,
“…as a general rule, men have the natural right to do anything which their inclinations may suggest, if it be not evil in itself, and in no way impairs the rights of others.”
In Re Newman (1925), 71 C.A. 386, 235 P. 664.
and,
“…every man is independent of [ALL] laws, except those prescribed by nature. He is not bound by any institutions formed by his fellow men without his consent.”
Cruden vs. Neale, 2 N.C. 338 (1796) 2 S.E. 70.
Who told you that? No one?
I wonder why?
“The State is the name of the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly it lies; and this lie slips from its mouth: I, the state, am the people.”
-Friedrich Nietzsche
It has been only by blinded belief through ignorance that the People have allowed themselves to be so governed on a tyrannical path that binds us to wretchedness which the occupiers of these seats of unlawful government have placed upon us.
But, be of good cheer! You can change that at any time. Not alone,… but those who know and understand the same. Education is our tool. The true law itself is our sword. They fear us. Have no doubt. They know well their treachery and treason.
Just as a single bee can be ignored, so can a maddened hive kill its invaders.
I gave this a shot after I returned home from UK and realized I had forgotten to get the reg sticker few months passed and hadn’t updated my license for a year, so I chanced a 2 hour trip north and got stopped by plate reader and cop with satellite flagging system apparently who nearly clipped me head on. I talked calmly and respectfully with the officer stating my traveling purpose. It’s true, they just repeat “driving is a privilege” like they are robots, but he ended up being an alright guy for once in my life. He even said, ” If I let you drive we’re both in the same boat” literally made me laugh right there.I managed to stand in my rights enough to prevent the car being towed but when it came to signing ticket, well, they will arrest you alot of times so I signed, “I conditionally accept retaining rights and privileges” with initials after. Strangely I called the magistrate day before ticket was supposedly due needing a plea and 50 bucks, and she said they hadn’t received it yet after 14 days and to call back after weekend monday. So I figured welp, hopefully they will throw it out or send a counter offer. I called back monday, she put me on hold awhile then finally came back with a ticket number. The thing was the officer put no total, and on the back of the contract “which they don’t let you read!” it said “if no total call or appear”. Place was 2 hours away from home so I told her, I’m not agreeing to a contract or starting payment on something with no proof of a total on paper, signing a blank check!.
Long story short, file papers/counter offers notarized and certified mail or they will dick you around. They sent a notice of license suspension when I was supposed to get a total in the mail, then when I called for the total again they sent an arrest warrant notice the day after I finally got it, in other words with no time to respond. Ended up paying 600 for damned useless little sticker which serves no purpose and chattel corporate slave card I don’t want to renew at all. The normal PA fine is 500 for 80 dollars of petty things. So, file your documents, phone does not count, even when they talk all nice and you think you’ve broken through some magic wall, they are liars. Though I got no penalties for no plea, and did it over the phone with some 3rd party private corporation and had to pay the constable 100 dollar fee cuz they dicked me around and I didn’t file things, but I defeated the scary contract back side, kind of. I felt good, then broke, then defeated and pissed again. Seriously a registration sticker serves no purpose other than paying dmv and them personally for no crime, no injured party or property. crooks
I’d maybe recommend talking to a sheriff or representative of the area you intend to travel first, and have a prepared identification statement for police who don’t know you’re passing through, or living there. Be respectful military style, they love power, indulge them a bit.
Soo, everyone needs to know this stuff, we need mass awakening or they will likely just tune you up. We need researchers to follow the money and publish, or else a government official to give you a personal free pass and notification to police departments. Otherwise, it worked a bit, I just messed it up. But I wasn’t really trying to go all the way to common law court, or Pa supreme court, I just wanted to not be towed really. If anyone actually travels, please prove and show us how. Maybe if I had filed counter offers they would eventually just dismiss it, or if I knew how to make a bonafied affidavit and claim breach of contract under UCC maybe I could have filed a lien on them for the suspension thing, or for deprivation of constitutional rights. Or maybe when it comes down to it, it’s just people, money worship, and the law flexed in all directions like a ship without a rudder in a corrupt satanic world of greed and ego. I still do not want to be chattel slave paper because China might want their property soon. Damned US and FED selling americans like inventory.
They didn’t violate any constitutional rights. You broke the law, period. Driving is 100% a privilege and not a right.
Marbury vs Madison there shall be no love that overrules a Supreme Court ruling. Shapiro vs Thomas a Supreme Court ruling states you have the right to travel free and unencumbered this is either by horse motor carriage or automobile! So could you please explain how it is a privilege and not a right?
Maa,maa.
I recently got 2 tickets. One for drivjng without a license ($180) and the other for dojng 52mph in a 35mph zone ($105). I was wondering how can I get these thrown out in court or at least reduced to no points.
Read my above comments. Challenge the jurisdiction and the PRESUMPTIONS of law that you were:
1. driving;
2. engaged in business/commmercial activity;
3. under maritime/commercial jurisdiction at the time of the ALLEGED infraction.
See also:
http://www.toolsforfreedom.com/Free-Online-Letter-Generator-p/8835.htm
You broke the law and got those tickets. They wont be thrown out nor will no points be added.
Unfortunately this does not address anything about insurance or a plate sticker.
This is real shit but only you can be a belligerent ass mf and stick to your guns that you will not be denied your constitutional rights. My tip to you is this there are far greater rights and those are God given. If u understand that then you know I’m for real
What a load of crap. LOL It is illegal to drive at all without a license. Driving itself is a privilege. There are other means to get around besides driving. Buses, bikes,cabs, and licensed driver for example. Nice try in your fake crap which will get people locked up and get a hefty fine or jail time.
So tell me are you a government agent because you seem to not want the people to know the truth. Why are you reading this article and making comments if you don’t even need some type of assistance? Yeah you have a right to say what you want but most people that look here need help. If you have any information that says we the people can’t do this and that please post it. And just so you know terry,
“The constitution and the laws of the United States ( which shall be made in pursuance thereof ) and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land” etc. art. 6 u.s const.
Terry the constitution is such a big deal my friend that cops, judges , lawyers all took an oath to support and defend it. And also the government personnel are all servants to we the people not the other way around. So terry to sum up what I’m saying it is simply that state laws mostly are unconstitutional. Fake! And lastly terry nobody has jurisdiction (ownership) over we the people unless by a valid contract signed as an adult. In most cases the drivers license. So those people the cops can enforce traffic laws. But it’s also failure for full disclosure for those guys too. So the government still can lose. So terry I hope you learned something in class today. Class dismissed.
In God we trust hahaha
I have a question. Are you allowed to exercise this right if you’re a minor but born in the U.S.?
Answered in the comments above – I don’t think so until you are 18.
A small fee you pay car insurance registration fees I got 3 cars this is no small fee once they arrest you you can sue them for false imprisonment then they wright you a check when you give them the paper showing your rights the next time hand them the paper work for that also and let them go to there car and research it for them selves time is a small fee
Hi Makia
I appreciate your article and do thank you for this amazing share of awareness. I am from UK. will the common law right to travel still applies to me?
Can you help please?
Thanks
I lost my license over two years ago due to getting sued over a wreck took bankruptcy and cleared all that up now I cant pass the eye exam to get them back but I can see just fine to drive at daytime just not at night. Any how a informal medical review board hearing has resulted in them keeping my license suspended here in Kentucky. Can I still travel in my own truck with my license being suspended for a medical reason ?
If you’re using your truck to drive commercially, you’ll need a license. If you traveling privately and not using the roads for business, you can claim the right to travel.
Great stuff Makia, but does this apply in the UK?
I believe so, since we are all endowed with inherent rights, such as the right to travel. However, you would have to test it there.
You must be a government representative because we the people do have a right to drive without a license. We the people have constitutional rights that cannot be infringed by any law. The constitution is bigger than state laws. Did you even know about God given natural inherent rights? How about who has jurisdiction over the people? Nobody or no state law is constitutional unless someone gets hurt and there’s a statement or an injured party. People you must exercise your rights at all government agencies. Law library,court clerks office,etc. They all are against us we the people and anybody that tells you different is deceiving you. I’m one of we the people and a member of the state of New York. The way to drive without a license is by knowing a few things. Get a phone and hit the record. Tell cop you are reserving your rights and what rights. I say I’m reserving all my God given and constitutional rights. Cop wants license huh? I’m invoking my right to remain silent. Don’t gotta give license or nothing that can be used against me. People if no one has a statement against you the police are supposed to protect and serve. If u have a license you didn’t know u were giving up rights. That’s failure for full disclosure. Anyways after invoking, remember you can’t be denied life liberty or property without due process.
In court it is so easy to get off first appearance. Record! Reserve your rights! All of them. Your honor I reserve all my God given natural inherent rights and my constitutional rights. Announce you will be representing yourself in propria persona.
When asked if you know nature of charges say no. Judge gonna ask what don’t you understand and you say I don’t understand the nature and cause of these charges. It might get dismissed then just because the police cannot press charges on the people they’re supposed to protect and serve. When a right of the people is violated, we can use the constitution to our defense. Why not! That’s what it’s there for! Look your next question would be is there an injured party here present or a statement from an injured party? When there isn’t that’s lack of an injured party and lack of jurisdiction of you never had a drivers license. Jurisdiction means ownership and no one owns the people. Show me a contract with my name on it signed by me as an adult giving any entity ownership of me. Hard evidence. Case dismissed! Lack of jurisdiction people! Real easy. You can only do these things in propria persona. Without a lawyer. The public defender is not allowed to enforce your constitutional rights. Only you can. God given rights. In God we trust. Those that don’t assert their rights have none.
if I have two diving under susp charges pendng can I try this travel deal will it left my tickets
Shannon I realize it’s maybe too late for you but maybe not someone else reading. Two suspensions on your license. Do you even have a license? If not ever then hell yea real easy. Demand to see the suspended license and hard evidence.
If you had a license and its suspended or whatever, it’s hard but if you know the truth the courts can’t lie to you cause you know the truth, you know what I mean? And the truth is that everyone with a drivers license did not know they were giving up rights to travel and do what we want. On the application for a drivers license it does not state anywhere that you are giving up rights. When you sign up, it’s a contract. You signed up to listen and obey to your servants hahaha. I’m sorry it’s just so funny the things the government get away with. And we’re the bad guys huh? Anyways by the contract not saying anything about you giving up any rights, that’s clearly failure for full disclosure. You have to know what you’re doing and to be willing to argue. If you do a little homework you can do it. Anybody can. I’m out. In God we trust
Where can you find out the age limit for this to work and im 17 years old. Is there any place thay you can contact that will back this information up?
Not sure sorry.
Everybody has constitutional rights as well as even more powerful rights are our God given inherited rights. After all you all know above the judge in the courtroom it clearly says “in God we trust”. You see what I mean? Being underage is a form of discrimination all day! First it was about wat color one is then it was gender now it’s too young. You want facts my man how about studying about the phrase in the constitution which clearly states that “all men are created equal”. Equality is not something that a government can grant or deny a body of citizens; for this right is unalienable. Our bill of rights can be more accurately thought of as a list of restrictions ( placed on government) that secures a citizens civil liberties.
(Noyes Historical Speeches) “Our Declaration of Independence says that each individual has certain basic rights, which are neither conferred by or derived from the state. To discover where they came from, it is necessary to move back behind the dim mist of eternity, for they are God-given”.
Man is also a synonym to human being. I just think this is a good way to go if anyone else don’t you have your opinion. I hope I’m not stepping on anyone’s toes by sharing with you what I really strongly think about your situation Jonah epps.
Mr.Makia Freeman
so u know I just wanted to tell the people that you and your team really know what you’re talking about and are trying to help us. I am one of the people and I learned a lot from you and your suggestions. So thank you sir. I have court on March 24th 2016 in upstate ny for aggravated unlicensed operator,unlicensed operator and driving while license suspended. Anyways I am 100 percent ready now and can’t wait for court.
I would’ve gotten these charges dropped sooner but it took a few times of going in front of the judge to try my new skills. I even went to court unscheduled to challenge the prosecutor because I’m ready now. I did record that. The judge wouldn’t let me talk to the DA. You’d be proud makia if you heard me. So thanks again for providing me and the people with the knowledge and ability that didn’t know I had all along.
Happy New Year!
Dose this all work in Canada Ontario?
See above comments – this principle applies anywhere.
I have noticed that the STATE BIRTH CERTIFICATE and the CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH are very different identifications of “Accounts”. Accounts are legally illustrated as “Glossa’s, being a marginal text and a corruption of the text according to Blacks Law Dictionary. A GLOSSA appears as the ALL UPPERCASE TEXT, being illustrative text and totally foreign to the descriptive text of English, (Grammatically speaking) also identified in the Chicago Manual of Styles: 11:144 and 11:147, under “FOREIGN LANGUAGES. I am also put through a lot of stress and imprisonments and impoundment of my cars but when I identify myself as the one in union with the CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH and not the Surname holder: evidenced by the STATE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, the court matter always falls over with charges remaining at large and me leaving the Court room or prison without any bail undertaking. I think the Christian Name in relation to the CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH, (Being the birth of the Christian Account) removes you from Citizenship of the debtor and places you back as a true legal “civilian” of the first state, rendering you the right to travel because the CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH is the grant of Legal Title to the State rendering you as the first grantor of such sovereignty to such a corporate state, whereas the STATE BIRTH CERTIFICATE is the counter deed that offers your own legal title that you granted to the STATE, granted back to you by the state you granted legal title to in the first place, but because this was all done by our parents, we were never aware of the first grant of dominion to the Corporate STATE…. Legal Title identifies the Trustee, not the beneficiary, I notice that the Registrar General (BDM) is your trustee in relation to the Christian Name Account, being the CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH. If we hold the SURNAME, we then become attached to such surname STATE property, because the STATE own the SURNAME account, rendering us as foreign debtors of our own estate.. (Deceived). The Driver License, is the instrument that confirms that we are the trustee’s of their foreign private banking STATE and their belligerence by forcing us to remain as holders of their DRIVER LICENSE in relation to the SURNAME debtor account that identifies us as their slave-trustee-debtor of their property, is what kills us and stops us from exercising our true God given right as the first grantors of dominion, because we were “coerced” and “bullied” into holding their SURNAME that looks like our own name but appears in the ALL UPPERCASE GLOSSA text that is the appearance of the corruption… I assume that “Smith” is not “SMITH” in the true grammatical sense, rendering “SMITH” as the false presumption of “Smith” but gives them the right to assume that we agreed to become their CORPORATE military CITIZEN SURNAME account holders when in fact, no SURNAME even appears on your “CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH”.
How can I find info on Canadian laws about right to travel?
Absolutely. Read also.Mary Elizabeth Crofts book.’How I clobbered every bureaucratic cash- confiscatory agency known to man.it emphasizes what your saying.excellent reading and can be downloaded to PDF,cheers
“Rights” are not given by “gods,” rights are demanded by people who are willing and able to defend themselves by force. The concept of a “god” is simply a human conceptual icon for power and authority. I agree with most of the “freeman” arguments in principal, but you too are brainwashed by your societal norms, namely religion. It is a bit ironic that you defer to your “god” in support of your claims of individual liberty, when in most cases the gods of antiquity, including Yahweh the Judeo-Christian bible god, were extremely authoritarian, and the related religious doctrine typically defines individualism as rebellion from god and sin. Rights are about survival, and fairness and justice in the real world, not about the dictates of some imaginary “god” that is alleged to exist somewhere in the sky. So, true “liberty” and intellectual honesty should have no connection to a person’s religious beliefs, which are simply fantasies.
You seem like a pretty smart person Steve but you started losing me with all that stuff about religion and gods. Tell you the truth I don’t care if there is a god or not. I don’t even go to church or study religion. But you know what Steve, the government and most of the planet believe in a higher power. You see it’s gods ways the constitution is supposed to be protecting. We the people are free as animals are free. We can do whatever we want so long as we don’t violate anyone’s God given rights to life liberty or property. So as long as ( in God we trust ), we always gonna have freedoms to do what free men do.
You are right about one thing though we the people must assert our rights in order to have them. Those that don’t assert their rights have none.
And Steve I do believe in God, do you?
Makia freeman can you send me more info on the travel not driving right i myself lost my license for 3 yrs because a refusal of breathalyzer on a second oui charge the first one was 10 15yrs ago and need to get bck and forth to work plse help thank you
Hello I have a car I own it I have the title will I have any trouble of leaving my car parked on the street without any licence plates or being insured
You may. I don’t exactly know how police trade unlicensed cars that are not being driven.
Makia – most of the people you’re explaining this to are the very reason why it’s so hard to get anything changed in this country today. mass media… and yes DMV brochures are in that category, help to promote and stifle any clue to those who don’t question anything and go along with the explanations given and confuse the difference between right and privilege. Most people are comfortable with the way things are until they’ve pulled it all from underneath you because they talked to you in a monotone voice and stroked your ego so now you’re against the idea that somehow Supreme Court rulings and the Constitution are supposed to be utilized for what and who it was written for – us against them. Your property is no longer your property today so why would anyone think the police, judges and lawyers have our best interest in mind? We’re regulated because it’s all about commerce, and commerce is a great way to regulate a persons life and life decisions.
Well said.
So what if my license suspended I did everything the right way and they took my license for something five years prior and suspended it because negligence of the courts sending paperwork to the registry 5 years later I got my license a year of having it the registry suspended it there was nothing I could do and my life has been hell since then it’s been hard I’ve been pulled over for driving without it I’m fine just keep piling up I have 3 kids and Work I need my car now recently finding out about rights to travel and I’ve been doing a lot of research and reading up on the Constitution article 6 the Fourth Amendment the 14th amendment section 1 n learning more everyday I have court this Wednesday for driving again while suspended I never knew I was in contract and never knew that I can drive without A license in this case am I still able to exercise my rights to travel even though the court suspended my license I no longer want it had no idea I didn’t need it and would like to exercise my rights am I still able to travel
If you’re not using the roads for commerce (like truck and taxi drivers do), but if you’re just using it for private travel, then you can exercise the right to travel.
Can i still exercise my rights to travel. My license was suspended for negligence on the courts and the DMV behalf, I was unaware I did not need it. I’ve been reading a lot of case law on drivers license vs traveler and I’m still a little confused. I’ve seen a few ruling on one and also the other not sure how accurate is the information I’m reading. Either way my main concern now is to exercise my rights to travel because it’s becoming more clear to me that we can travel without a license my question before knowing all this I had my license and it was suspended am I still able to exercise my right to travel without a license even though I technically was in contract because I had a license and then got it suspended but like I said I was not aware I did not need it nor did I know I was in contract can i still exercise my right to travel
A right is a right – you can exercise it no matter what. It doesn’t matter that your license was suspended in the past. In the past, you were “driving” as a privilege. Now, you will be “traveling” as a right.
Thank you so much this article in the comments have been very educational and inspirational if there’s anything else you think would be useful for me in court for tomorrow please feel free to share again greatly appreciated I will be spreading the word and exercising my rights as well
C.H.P have arrested me 2 times,took me 75 miles,one way,handcuffed me to a wall in C.H.P.office for an hour,then took me to jail,booked and released me,had to find a ride home,75 miles,seized 3 autos,2 autos for 30 days even though “I am a traveler not a driver,it is my god given,inalienable right to travel”.I made this statement many times.The cops here are L.M.Vs,lunch money victims,this has taken place in 2 years and court tomorrow,any ideas?
I am using jurisdiction challenge as stated above,thank you and may the force be w/me.lol
I have challenged jurisdiction before and the court sets another date and a warrant,there is a $15000 warrant,DRIVING ON SUSPENDED.I am driving to court and will continue driving,court is an hour&1/2 away,today is the day,I will not go back,I have been screwed w/sjnce age of 10 yrs.
I am sorry to hear you went through that. All I can advise you is to keep challenging jurisdiction, refuse to enter commercial/stautory jurisdiction, tell them that they have made the presumption of law rather than present facts, and keep saying that the burden of proof is on them to prove you were driving commercially at the time of the alleged infraction. Good luck.
First I want thank-you for this info. I am 58 yr old with A.D.D. I only have a ninth-grade education so my vocabulary is somewhat limited. Yet, I’m no ordinary dummy. I just need to know if there are any key words or phrases you can help me out with? I’ve been charged with driving after suspension. The first eight times I went to jail, so its needless to say I’m not afraid of that, I just don’t like it. Although I do love to travel. Anything you may throw my way is greatly appreciated. Again, thank-you.
The key is to challenge jurisdiction and insist that you were and are traveling by right, not driving by privilege.
I live in Texas and have received 2 tickets for driving without a license. A warrant was issued for my arrest and I was pulled over again and arrested and taken to jail. I was released with the promise to pay the 500 fine by the 16th of this month. Unfortunately I have not had the money to pay. Is there a way to get these charges dropped?
It’s all based on commercial jurisdiction. Read through the article and comments above carefully. Write a letter asking them to PROVE that you were driving not traveling. Tell them you’ll be happy to pay if and only if they can prove that you were engaged in commerce at the time of the alleged offense.
Im not here to argue with anyone. That being said.court rulings have made it clear that an automobile is,and of itself,not inherently dangerous. So on this assumption the average individual,licensed or not, should not be stopped on.the presumption that not having a license automatically makes him.incompetent to operate/drive/travel.in a motor vehicle. Also the assumption that just by having said license insures the licensee is competent to operate a vehicle is a gross mistake. How many fatal accidents are caused daily by “licensed” individuals? Also consider this…If a person recieves thier license at age 16 then continues to renew it every four years in which case they are never again required to prove thier competency in the use of a automobile then how is that “licensed” elderly individuals suffering from dementia,Alzheimer’s,poor eyesight, etc are considered safer than anyone else? You may call it legal “mumbo jumbo” but yhe Supreme Courts have upheld its a right not a privilege. That.s worded Law. Documented and irrefutable. Also the DMV operates as a corporation under the control and regulation of the DMV not as a body of government. Sounds tyranical to me. To charge a tax or excise fee for the Right stated by our Constitution sounds a bit like a form.of slavery. And also to.make a point,many people have passed such licensing tests therefore proved competent to use a motor vehicle only to have the “privilege” revoked for reasons not inherently unsafe such as unpaid fines or back child support. Honestly can you tell me where failure to pay child support while in and of itself is morally wrong,has any basis on ones ability to safely operate a vehicle? Are you telling me I dont have the right as stated in the Constitution to walk along a public pathway? That I dont have freedom of speech? The right to a fair and speedy trial by a jury of my peers? The right to protect myself from illegal search and seizure? Why if I have all these Constitutional rights do I suddenly not have the right to travel upon public roadways as long as Im doing so in a safe manner? If one must be “licensed” for this one act then why not give up all your rights and require permission for everything you do like the right to breathe?
Out of curiosity does this apply to motorcycles as well? Or typical motor vehicles such as cars, trucks, etc.?
I see no reason why this cannot be applied to motorcycles.
I have a case wherein i was stopped by a police officer after having already exited my vehicle having committed no violation whatsoever. I had a sandwich in my hand and was standing on private property when a sheriff’s deputy who was parked on the street ran my plates and looked up on his computer to see that one of the vehicle owners had a suspensed license and i was stopped because of his suspicion that i had a suspended license. He assumed my license was suspended and pointed a taser at me and ordered me to get into my car, at which point i asked him if he had probable cause and to identify himself which he refused and became aggressive so i ran and was caught 45mins later, and was assaulted by the police and left in an unmanned police car for an hour on a hot summer day in the sun in the back seat and suffered heat stroke. How can i defend myself from the dwol in this case
Truly sorry to hear of your experience. This is beyond the scope of the article. I would suggest suing the police for damages. You may need an attorney. I would also suggest writing down your experience as soon as possible, with all the details you can remember, and even turning that statement into an affidavit of truth, by getting it notarized.
Kev you don’t know me and I don’t know you. I’m just like you though, a human with natural God-given rights and guess what, we got constitutional rights which limits the powers of the government. Bro-god given rights – in God we trust. Do you get it? It’s everywhere. So they recognize a god. Nobody can make us do shit without our consent. Allowing them to tell us what’s right and wrong. My man, as long as you don’t violate anyone’s rights to life, liberty, or happiness, you’re not committing any crime. I’ll get into that in a minute.
Constitutional rights are a bonus. They keep the government from violating our rights as well as other citizens. It means the government has limited powers. If the constitution says we can bear arms, then we can. The only way it’ll work however is you must be in a constitutional court. How do you do that? You must represent yourself in propria persona. That means you are defending your case however you see fit. You don’t gotta put in motions. You make demands! When you get any lawyer paid or not you are putting yourself in their jurisdiction. To use the constitution you MUST represent yourself. Then you must be released because you are innocent until proven otherwise. Then you can use the right to bear arms! Do you get me!
We the people secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.
In God we trust! I’m out
O snap I thought a 45mm was involved but you still got power. Tell you the truth I don’t give a fuck about the government
So I was wondering the state of Kansas does that apply there I’m sure it doesn’t it’s in the US I’ve been pulled over somewhere times for driving without a license I have been charged another read this I’m going to drive without one and I am going to get pulled over and Show this paper I hope it works
Its all garbage, all the case cited are irrelevant to the “right to travel” nor the issue of “no driver license required” nor “no registration required”
I can debunk every case these “free travelers” cite, I can debunk every legal theory they claim. I can also show relevant case rulings that show everything they claim is garbage and has not, and will not ever work.
In the mean time check out this article it helps with some basic research and explanation.
http://pseudolaw.com/right-to-travel-united-states
If the root of a plant is diseased, the whole plant is diseased. If the basic foundation of law is corrupted, the whole set of codes, regulations, statutes and admiralty law is corrupted.
This issue is really one of jurisdiction.
The plain truth is that statutes are, by definition, maritime commercial rules. They only apply to commercial entities in commercial jurisdiction. Yes, the States made statutory laws to govern road use, but statutes only apply to fictional legal entities created through (for instance) birth certificates. They cannot apply to real, living, breathing man or woman, unless those people step into commercial jurisdiction and assume all of the responsibility and liability of that entity.
A real attorney? You can debunk anything? So you know, I’m a man. Nobody tells me what to do. Not the government or people like you that deceive the people. People like you are the real criminals. You see, we the people are free as animals. We can really do whatever we want as long as we don’t violate anyone’s rights to life liberty or property. And as long as there’s no party claiming any loss damages or injury, there is no crime. Do you know mr attorney the elements for a crime to exist? Let me tell you real quick. You ever hear of mens rea or actus reus?
Or how about can you please tell the people the government’s definition of liberty because we the people secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.
I’m gonna leave it here and see how you gonna debunk what I said or I’m right so far. I got more
You’re an idiot. If you believe in any one word written on this site, you really, truly, undeniably are an idiot. Let me explain: The shit written on this website is well written, and to an idiot who doesn’t know any better, will not confirm anything, do their own research, or care to go deeper to get a real understanding of the law. Once you start believing what is written here, it’s too late. Your mind is infected, its parasitized, wasted. You might as well kill yourself now.
The shit written here does sound good right? Hah, don’t need a license, insurance, amazing right? And look, they have court cases written by a judge that say that traveling in the driver’s seat of the car is a right, so they proved their point, OMG I can’t believe I was a slave to this corporation this whole time, my life is now changed forever! In reality all sovcits are delusional. You can believe whatever you want, but if you ever try any of this in court, let me tell you, you will lose. You will have a one way ticket to jail! Judges will not listen to your drivel, not one single judge in the USA, or the world, will agree with you. So yes, go ahead and waste your life thinking your right and everyone else is wrong, but the fact of the matter is: you’re just a deluded idiot.
CASE #2: “The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit or permit at will, but a common law right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 579.
This is the typical nonsense I’ve come to expect from morons of this caliber.
Why don’t you inbreeds every post the rest of that statement?
Oh right. Because it utterly and completely eviscerates your argument.
“he right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon in the ordinary course of life and business is a common right which he has under his right to enjoy life and liberty, to acquire and possess property, and to pursue happiness and safety. It includes the right in so doing to use the ordinary and usual conveyances of the day; and under the existing modes of travel includes the right to drive a horse-drawn carriage or wagon thereon, or to operate an automobile thereon, for the usual and ordinary purposes of life and business. It is not a mere privilege, like the privilege of moving a house in the street, operating a business stand in the street, or transporting persons or property for hire along the street, which a city may permit or prohibit at will.
The exercise of such a common right the city may, under its police power, regulate in the interest of the public safety and welfare; but it may not arbitrarily or unreasonably prohibit or restrict it, nor may it permit one to exercise it and refuse to permit another of like qualifications, under like conditions and circumstances, to exercise it.
The regulation of the exercise of the right to drive a private automobile on the streets of the city may be accomplished in part by the city by granting, refusing, and revoking, under rules of general application, permits to drive an automobile on its streets; but such permits may not be arbitrarily refused or revoked, or permitted to be held by some and refused to other of like qualifications, under like circumstances and conditions.”
Wow. Look at that last paragraph will yah? Regulation of the right to drive may be accomplished by the city granting, refusing and revoking a drivers license.
Class dismissed.
Thanks for your comment. However, the rabbit hole goes deeper than you think. As I wrote in my last comment and many times elsewhere, when the root is bad, the tree is bad and the fruit is bad. Fraud vitiates all.
The Government is attempting to enforce statutes (which can only exist in commercial jurisdiction) onto living, breathing entities which are more properly governed by common law. Where is the proof that statutes apply to living men and women, not their corporate strawman entity?
Also, the US Government was secretly incorporated England in 1871 and became not only a corporation, but a foreign corporation at that. This means that its “laws” (really rules, code and policy which fraudulently take the color of law) are that of a foreign entity. Where is the proof that any of its statutes or “laws” apply to the sovereign men and women of the US Republic?
You are mixing State supreme court ruling with us supreme court ruling and are either a government worker or just deceiving people for the kicks. The US supreme court has NEVER stated any thing other then your constitutional RIGHT to free Travel Can Not be Restricted by any State Federal Or municipal Government for your Constitutional Rights Over rule any Governments Restrictions and they are Illegal. You Quote 1930 Virginia state supreme court Judge Acting Illegally against your Constitutional Federal Rights, The case you quote like the case from Idaho that led to the US Supreme Courts most recent Decision on NO LICENSE Is Constitutional In Any State Was Won In Idaho For the State as in Your Virginia Case The Judge Favored HIS State and BOTH Cases were Over Turned And The Free Travel No Licence People Won. Now Your Local And State Entities Drop Cases to prevent Spreading The Truth They are in violation Of Citizen Rights I Know I Just Had My Third Case Dismissed and Not Once Have I Lost In Court EVERY TIME Case Dropped. I Also Dont Pay Income Tax Cause Its Voluntary.
Does anyone have any information regarding where Canada stands on this matter? I have done some digging but cannot seem to substantiate any claims about “driving” versus “travelling” on Canada’s roads. I would love it if someone could share any findings pertinent to Canadians and whether or not motorist licensing is a ruse like it seems to be in the States.
Thanks!
In Oregon can a person without a license get a ticket for driving on private property
Sure! You can get one…but it doesn’t have “legs” if it is outside the issuers jurisdiction. It only has legs if you let it by your consent or through your ignorance. They operate outside their jurisdiction frequently because people do not understand jurisdiction. There are a few layers of “jurisdiction” that you have to comprehend and have the ability to distinguish. Then, learning to challenge jurisdiction and sue in a court of record proceeding according to common law.
Marc
Can I use this defense even if my current driver’s license is suspended? I’m facing a long suspension of my driving privileges and I live in the state of New Jersey, which doesn’t give provisional licenses. Therefore I will be also deprived of my right to gainful employment as it will be impossible to get to work and home every day and I will be helpless perhaps even perhaps homeless, lose my car and all my possessions.
Yes. Your rights always exist, even if you haven’t exercised them in the past.
It is really a moot point to bring up constitutional law for since the inception of the United States the constitution has been in a state of suspension. All of the Supreme Court rulings are indeed favorable to the those who actually use it, they are in fact not the basis for law in the US and likely the same holds true for Canada.
The foundational law is the Law of Land Warfare which I encourage everyone to read as it is only about 46 pages long. The only way that their admiralty and statutory courts have jurisdiction over you is when you are found to be a “belligerent”. This happens to anyone who claims the name they use (the Trust) which in fact does not belong to you but to the state that created it.
It goes on to say that if one is a peaceful inhabitant, they must leave you, your property and possessions alone. They follow their twisted understanding of canon law to the letter but the statutory acts and laws are all fictional and cannot apply to a living man…in fact they cannot hear a living man.
The end of all “traffic” (commercial) stops is this; “At present I am not operating in any trade or business regulated by the United States, the state of (whatever state you are in) or any other state for that matter. So unless you have probable cause to believe that I have injured someone or intend to injure someone or unless you simply need my help for any reason I have much to do in the name of my Lord.”
They no longer have any jurisdiction over you….it is about peace and love toward our brothers that counts. Indeed persecution will come but if you stick to this, they have no power over you for the living have power over the (legally) dead while the dead have power over nothing at all. If they hand you a “charge” to sign simply sign it “no contract”. If they say you cannot do that tell that “what I have written I have written”. They will always presume you are “of the world” and they will hate you for this but the world hated our Master first so get used to it.
My last court visit lasted about 45 seconds…be kind, do not resist but show compassion and love towards those who persecute you and throw you into the jail…your time will be short and they will wonder about you. Never swear before a magistrate, and never consent to anything they wish you to do but let them know that you will not resist if they force you. Again, never become a belligerent and the root of their law must be upheld.
Blessings,
Billy
What is done about not having a tag or registering the automobile.
If I have old speeding ticket’s can put them back in court and get them thrown out under the right to travel law
Can someone help me with these rights for martinsburg wv. I’ve never applied or had a liscence yet I’m told I’m driving on suspended. I have a vehicle in my moms name cause she’s a liscenced driver and I did not learn of these rights till recent can I sue them for making me pay and arresting me for driving with no L’s. I would also like to know what I have to do/carry with me to protect myself and my rights please some one respond to my email Mr.aka85@gmail.com thank you
I have a court day soon for drivibg under suspention these gona be my 10 ofence as an habitual offender now my first can i still use the right to travel i got an attorney can he use it
I’ve seen this thing dozens of times now. You guys are factually wrong about the whole “you’re travelling, not driving” thing. I see where you’re coming from, I mean, there’s a website with a perfectly good (and correct) law dictionary that lists the definition of driving like this: “One employed in conducting a coach, carriage, wagon, or other vehicle,with horses, mules, or other animals, or a bicycle, tricycle, or motor car, though not a street railroad car.”
Now there are several problems with this.
First one is a matter of grammar.
If one were a taxi-driver, one would be employed *TO* drive. Not employed *in* driving a car (although he also would be that). The difference here is that when it says that you’re employed *in*, it means the same as saying “busy with”, not “hired to do”.
The 2nd problem is that the edition of the book you’re using came out in 1910.
106 years ago.
The definition has changed since then. Even the 4th revised edition, which came out in 1968 has changed the definition by adding this little bit at the end: “A person actually doing driving, whether employed
by owner to drive or driving his own vehicle.”
So by now there is absolutely no uncertainty about the definition. Like it says, if you’re driving (colloquial definition), you’re a driver by legal definition.
Please, I actually do my research and so should you.
Don’t take people’s words for it, no matter how much you want out of that ticket. You’ll only make a laughingstock out of yourself.
Yeah, I also didn’t know until, a month ago, that Americans may drive in excess of 100 mph on US highways with their flashers on, because they have the right to try to make it to their Momma’s funeral on time. Nobody may take their right do be at Momma’s funeral, no matter how dangerous it might. We’re all the best drivers on Earth. Countless dot.org Websites proves this beyond any doubt.
In all my 40 years driving I never knew this to be Real True Fact. I have a Mom, a stepmom, some fathers. Kewl.
This just happened http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-korryn-gaines-police-shooting-20160802-story.html
August 2, 2016
“A Randallstown woman shot to death by police in a standoff Monday had been pulled over in March for driving with a cardboard “Free Traveler” sign in place of a license plate on her car, and told an officer at the scene that police would have to ‘murder’ her to get her out of the vehicle, police said.”
I almost bet she read on the Web that she may do whatever she wants on a public street…..
Charlie sprinkle successfully sued Ronald taken for requiring a license in California in 73 look it up he won though dismissals by leveraging charges against the govner and there wives
where can I find a precise, legal, and short printable copy of the laws and rights pertaining to the scenario of a traveling independent via motor vehicle being pulled over and the officer being ignorant of the actual law.
I recently purchased a vehicle it was not registered yet I was on my way to work and was pulled over. The officer impounded my vehicle and gave me a ticket for driving on a suspended license even though I’ve never actually had one. I was simply trying to go to work I live in the state of michigan any advice would be greatly appreciated
Contact me @ wiseguyjones at aol dot com, I may be able to help…. I also reside in the state of Michigan.
is it legal to travel in a car as the operator if you have never had a licence and do I need the tags to be up to date and legal and insurance also??
I have not had a drivers License for nearly one year. The Right to Travel. The wife does not like it. Fear of state reprisals. So, she has looked into it. Particular the insurance and informed me that if there is a collision, my auto would not be insured, even though she has paid for the insurance. This I do not understand. What has a drivers license to do with the Constitutional Right to Travel?
Hello!
Im 19 and appearantly still learning my constitutional rights, so Pardon any ignorance I may display when asking these questions.
So I understand the difference between “Traveling” and “Driving”, as for one is a right that cannot be taken away while the other is merely a privilege.
Where my confusion begins is here:
I currently have a permit to drive and I also pay for insurance. Frustratingly, i cannot “drive” with others in the car unless they are of 24 years of age or older nor can I drive at night.
Once I begin using my “Rights to Travel”, does this mean my insurance becomes “VOID” until I recognize myself as a “Driver”?
If I were to “Travel” and get hit, am I no longer covered until I am a “Driver”?
Thank you
It’s really a question of capacity and jurisdiction. The issues are:
– In what capacity were you operating at the time of any alleged offense or infraction? Were you driving or traveling? Were you engaged in commerce, or conducting personal and private affairs? You decide; the State presumes you were driving in commerce unless you rebut that presumption.
I was driving in Douglas County Georgia I had proof of insurance I had just obtained a new license plate and it matched the vehicle and I was pulled over by a Douglas County police officer who wrote me a ticket for driving without license and improper plate then he arrested me and took me to jail instead of reading me my Miranda rights he slid me a piece of paper with the Miranda rights on the paper the very next day I was taken in front of a judge the judge stated to me if I do not have the money for the fines that I will be put on probation with fines and stipulations stating I had to do community service and obtain my driver’s license I was put on probation for 24 months I did not make a payment the first two times I reported to the probation officer so she sent me back in front of the judge the judge sent me to jail for 18 days I did 10 and they let me go and ordered me to return back to probation court at the courthouse with $720 I did not have it so I did not return as of right now I have a warrant out for my arrest for probation violation what can I do to resolve this issue
Cornell Berry
Say this to judge
Your honor, my name is Cornell Berry
For the record, I am recording
( have your phone already recording )
I reserve all my God given rights and all my constitutional rights
In the event of a appeal, anything you say or do in violation of any of my rights can and will be used against you in the court of law
This is an exercise not a threat
In God we trust
God is my creator not the US government
I see no authority here but my own
You have no jurisdiction over me
I do not consent to this matter
I’m here under duress
I just want to remind you you are a servant of we the people
( slap to the judges face )
At this point , I demand you to dismiss all my charges in the interest of justice,
with cause and with prejudice
When the judge takes a recess say,
Your honor are you abandoning ship sir?
When he don’t say nothing say,
For the record the judge has abandoned ship,
I’m dismissing these charges in the interest of justice, with cause and with prejudice
That’s it!!!
If anything else , challenge jurisdiction.
You wanna see a contract with your name on it signed as an adult by you allowing the court ownership of yourself.
Unless you are a slave there is no contract.
The drivers license contract is no bueno
Failure for full disclosure because it doesn’t say that you will be giving up your right to travel freely without restrictions ,
which is what makia freeman is trying to show us
In God we trust
We trust in God
I live in Peoria,Illinois.I am 45 yrs old and been licenced since i was 16.Recently i was pulled over and informed my licence were revoked.Now i havent found out why just yet,but according to you i dont need one.So my question is ,is there some form of a script that can be sent to me stating exactly what to say to a cop the next time im pulled ovet?If so my address is 1537 S.Idaho St. Peoria,Illinois 61605. My name is. Ken Dircks,thank you
I was not driving my vehicle. I was at a rest stop and had stayed a few hours (to sleep-was traveling from southern ca back home to oregon) and after taking change of clothes into the womens restroom and changing I got back in my vehicle. Being a female on such a long journey traveling alone, I am alert and aware of my surrounding especially at rest areas and truck stop like areas (many women targeted when traveling, dangerous) so when going from vehicle to bathroom and back i have my pepper spray (hanging around my neck) in hand ready as well as a stunner in the other inside sweatshirt or jacket pocket until safely inside my vehicle. After i return to my vehicle and am getting situated and pulling out my phone to text family my update on my journey and look for local mechanic (check my vehicle condition and get ok for long trip) i notice a law enforcement vehicle pull up in my review mirror. So i rolled down my window and greeted the officer politely and smiled asking how he was and if i could help him etc. Long long story short, i was put in the backseat of the officers vehicle after i was asked if i had anything illegal on me, i said no, then quickly let him know i wasnt sure if a stunner was legal in ca but was one in pocket. I told him truth about my visit and purpose for being so far from home. I watched for what seemed like forever while he turned my car inside out searching for mass amounts of illegal controlled substances (he assumed and even told me he didnt believe i wasnt “muling” drugs in my little car) when he was done and as i had stated to him, there was not anything of such and there was nothing to find he let me out of his vehicle after of course writing me a ticket and informing me he was taking a marijuana smoking device and “paraphernalia” and that I must show up at the court on the date on the ticket. This court date was originally set for july 2016 but when i called the court they said that it was rescheduled and i should have received notice via mail. I said i had not so they printed and mailed me one after the phone call. Now the new court appearance is sheduled for september 2016. I am just wondering if theres any way any of the stuff in your article or these pages that can be applied or exercised in my particular case to dismiss this. The only thing signed was the ticket where it saids “WITHOUT ADMITTING GUILT, I PROMISE TO APPEAR AT THE TIME AND PLACE INDICATED BELOW.”
I do not have a drivers license but my license was suspended for failure to file proof of insurance after I got into a car accident. Now I am unable to get even my learners permit until I file proof of insurance and pay the suspension fee. I am also on probation, is there any way around all of this? Can they suspend my license for that?
This topic is really a small beginning to the way our human rights have been suppressed . If you take the time to study human rights you will see that our rights are suppose to be taught in school because they are so very important . But human rights are hidin from us cause if we knew them , we wouldn’t put up with this legal system that tramples our rights . I believe all legislation is infringing on our rights and we put up with it cause we don’t know our rights . The more you study human rights , the more you see how far off track we are in regard to the way people should be . There is a need for a revolution , not just here but the whole world . We need to come together to fight oppression world wide . All government are responsible to the needs of the people . Now with this topic of travel driving , I think we have to realize that courts and police need to be our allies . the government military would be needed to over throw the real problem . There is a group of the wealthiest people in the world that really control everything,
The planes crashing into the World Trade Towers started this topic for me. What took place that day made me come to realize that I can’t trust the government … about ANYTHING !! Because the Government is bought off by big business . This is no less important than what Hitler did
We need to gather in masses to overthrow the real problem … BANKS
They have so much money and power they can do anything or pay someone to do anything . I’m not talking about that bank down the road but the families that own the banks
We will have to come together with ALL our strength to lock them up for crimes against humanity
In 2012 I was pulled over in Reading, Pa (Berks County) for going the wrong way down a one way street. My license was under suspension for a DUI that I received in May 2007. Driving while your licesnse is under DUI suspension in my state carries a mandatory jail sentence of 60-90 days. I missed the court hearing bc I moved out of the area so I was automatically found guilty and was given a hefty fine and the mandatory jail sentence. I would like to appeal the sentence and attempt to fight it bc I am a single mother and I work 2 jobs. Going to prison for any length of time would have a substantial negative effect on my life, including the custody situation of my children. Is there a way for me to go into court and plead not guilty and be found not guilty for driving under DUI suspension and have the jail sentence overturned? Also, my actual DUI suspension was finished in November of 2010, however, my inability to pay off the exorbinent fines and court costs that were imposed, kept my drivers license suspended, even still to this day. I was pulled over for the driving under DUI suspension infraction in August 2012. If I had been able to afford the fines, my suspension would have been up almost 2 years prior to getting pulled over. Now I am not able to get my license back until January 2017, and I still have a ridiculous amount of fines to pay off. When I looked at the break down of the fines, 75% of them were ridiculous court costs, not even the actual fine, or the driving classes associated with the actual DUI. So what can I do to help get rid of some of these fines and what can I do to fight the driving under DUI suspension infraction?
I have understood what the “Law of the land” so I faithfully failed to succeed in “Traveling” in this country without a licence. What I mean by that is. In California in the county of Santa Cruz. Have been charged and done jail time for this right I so call posses. Even gone through the “Challenging jurisdiction to the judge itself. It said “It is under a Statutory Jurisdiction” I was in line to expose the courts fraud by stating. “Where can I find the criminal procedure for this Statutory law so I can properly defend myself, and conduct a fair trial”. It pointed at some literature on its desk and said right here and you don’t have access to those procedures”. and I got pulled over again, got court Oct,19th 2016 YEA U.S. Supreme court ruling in our favor for our right to travel
My question is, I have a home business. Many times I need supplies quicker than Amazon can deliver them. I can drive without a license as a traveler and by what the SCOTUS says I do not have to pull over because the police may not impede my progress.
Now, I buy paper, printer ink and /or pens and pencils. Once I put them in my car and go home, I am now doing commerce because I have something in my automobile that make money for me. Please explain how to beat that?
You are not engaged in commerce by merely transporting items you may use later for business purposes.
My question has to do with owning a license. If I do have a licence to conduct driving for work, then if I am traveling home do I not present the officer with any identification including plates, registration, insurance, or a licence?
so I was caught speeding with no licenses and no insurance. I am only 16 years old. and I have a 10 month old son, I have a court date, what will happen to me, can they put me in jail?
also, my mom has no licenses and no insurance and she backed up into a school bus dropping me off from school, she as well has a court date, will they put her in jail??
Rosemary burke, it sounds like you and your mother need to learn how to drive or never ever have the privelage of driving a vehicle or getting the chance of having a license. Any body who believes this shit and tries to use are complete fools. You are very confused about the wording. Please stop posting this as fact.
I was sententenced to a DUI recently after a traffic stop where I was pulled over for weaving. The officer did not give me a field test because, I believe, he knew I would have passed. This is my first and only criminal offense in my life. I got probation for 2 years, over $2,000 worth of fines. I will lose my license for 2 years, (suspension). I was also charged and convicted of reckless endangerment because my son was in the car. There was no accident or injury but I felt so demoralized and ashamed.
Now I find that my sentencing was in the paper and on Google. I feel like, OK, I made a mistake and I am sorry and will be careful not to let it happen again. I love my son with all my heart and feel that despite all this, I am still a good mom. But now all people see is my new criminal record…not that I was a professional violinist and teacher…not my work with children…nothing matters except the bad.
Can anyone out there help or just relate. I would appreciate it.
In addition, I live out in the country and am frightened about having to travel in an emergency. I can’t risk going to jail. I really don’t have anyone I trust to leave my son with.
If my driving suspension were only for six months, which my plea deal was based on, I think I could get through it…but 2 years for my first offense is a lot, I think. My friends can’t believe it. Please help.
I really would like to see the pol8ce tape, if it exists, to see if I was really weavind…any way to get ahold of it?
I also was recently sentenced of dui in Montana. I was given a probationary license which they call “essential driving only”. I really am a good driver. I was profiled by being out at the wrong hour. Officer said I was weaving, however on discovery video tape I was not. That being besides the point, the law says I can drive to work, alcohol treatment program, to look for work, etc.. Essential driving only. Is there a way around this law? I am reading a lot on this blog that is referring to traveling, not driving. All the fines were quite hefty but not being able to go visit family is the hardest part of it all. Or simply not being able to go where I want to go. Any info will be greatly appreciated
Thank you for responding…I really appreciate knowing that I’m not alone. I would like to see the tapes because I am not convinced I wad weaving. How did you get them…your lawyer?…mine never bothered to get them.
If I learn something helpful, I eill respond further on this sight.
Thank you again, – Vicky
Can I get some help? I’ve been having a rough last few years.. Now heading in a new direction getting into internet marketing.. It’s slow and I’m broke, homeless and have a family.. I live in Haverhill, Massachusetts. Have court on 12/22/2016 at the haverhill court house for 3 charges.. License not in possession, unregistered car and no plates. I see 3 accounts of failure to intervene and 1 account of malicious prosecution. Was threatened imprisonment, told I was infact a operator when I had already made it clear I was a traveler in my automobile. They stated my ss card was my license. ? Totally didn’t check any of the case law I had or definitions to actual laws they were trying to charge me with. Stole my 91 accord. I’m frigging homeless.
PLEASE HELP I AM BEING THREATENED TO BE PLACED IN JAIL FOR 60-180 DAYS FOR DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED AND SOMEHOW I AM BEING PLACED AS A HABITUAL OFFENDER. MY LIFE IS FINALLY COMING TOGETHER. I AM GETTING IN MY OWN PLACE TONIGHT I HAVE A CAR A GOOD JOB AND I’M FIGHTING FOR CUSTUDY OF MY DAUGHTER.
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD HELP ME.
Hi there, just joined, so sorry if this is late. Karl Lentz is a person who knows all about Law and Statute; he got his child back after it was stolen by the state when the baby was born. It took him six years to understand what was going on. Watch the video here
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mZlfOORFFT8
This will help 100% in not being given any pecuniary levy, (fine, tax etc) and will enable you to travel freely, here
https://licensenotrequired.wordpress.com/
Below is the same document, but from the other end of the perspective, showing why you do not have to pay tax, here
https://notpayingtaxeslawfully.wordpress.com/
If one link is not working, use the other one. This lot will help you completely. Take care…
Not to mention I was pulled over because they accused my gf of doing the same thing earlier in the day
How can I be charged with driving without a license and I never ever applied for one the only thing I posess, is an identification card. Thus how do I get out of paying these tickets as a sovereign being which I am now practicing. Also when I purchase a car how do I keep from getting it registered n getting a plate to drive. I was going to ordetermine a plate saying freeman on the back. I live in the Commonwealth of PA
I want to purchase a car but from someone so do I just transfer the title which gives me ownership n not go through the whole registration n insurance process. The title gives me ownership of the vehicle correct? The other paperwork gives the government ownership over my vehicle n puts me at risk to get it impounded under their laws?
I agree, Janelle. I’m of the opinion that as soon as you go to the DMV with the title to the car you just bought signed off by the owner, you’re requesting a new one with your name on the title. Seems to me the State still owns our cars! regardless if we even drive it, or insure it. You can’t even get the insurance without a drivers license, and you can’t register without insurance. They got us no matter what, I think. My question still stands…how do you prove ownership of the car you’re driving without the registration, insurance, or last but now least, A TITLE, WHICH IS REQUIRED TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE NEW OWNER WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE SALE.
So I’m 18 and live in Texas if I got a vehicle do I need to get tags an register if I do get a license does that mean I will forever need 1 do I need tags and regesterd if I do have a license and what said so
As much as I appreciate someone with an opposing view to challenge the article, I do not see how the process is at all necessary to issue one a drivers license. You claim once one has been issued one, they have not to think about it, seems to be so far from the truth. For starters, between the time and money involved just to renew that unnecessary document you deem so necessary, is beyond burdensome in the span of a lifetime to contend with, notwithstanding tickets, and violations committed with it. Points and a record attached, not to mention suspensions, notices, revised codes, etc. I do not think a mere license, and the passing of a 10 minute road test, is at all the measure of a responsible operator, or even one who is remotely safe. You will find no State that issues these licenses, that will assert that a driver once receiving one, will be deemed by that very State, as safe. Only experience and prudence can ensure safety. Yet in spite of all this, millions of LICENSED DRIVERS nonetheless get into accidents,get killed, injured, and even drunk in vehicles. So much for licenses being necessary, and or assuring responsibility, and safety. Do you not see? Drivers are compelled to carry insurance, why? It ought to be to insure no one but themselves, but the fact is it is more so to insure others from them! So much for a license to deem one as responsible or safe. I must confess we live in such a state of backwardness that what, if looked logically would command otherwise. The mark of a safe, responsible driver,is one who has sufficient experience, one who commits 0 traffic violations, one who gets in no accidents, or is at least never the cause. Understand what a license is in it’s physical nature, a mere document. Responsibility and safety, two indispensible virtues to ensure safety on the roads, is not necessarily inclusive to a State issued license, but State issued licenses may be exclusive to the two. As an overwhelming record of historical statistics will evidently provide you, without any assistance from me. The error begins with people putting stock in certifications, licenses, and the like, to ensure competence and safety, yet it is the indispensible virtues of character they call for, that can only attain, and maintain them. Tell me what is to be reasonable in even a safety aspect, the requisite of a drivers license. I still cannot think of any? One of the gravest mistakes of the people of any nation, is to leave it to the government to be responsible for them , rather than leaving themselves responsible for their government.
It strikes me uneasy do to that fact that it seems nobody has ever addressed the issue of proof of ownership of the vehicle you’re driving. The only “proof of ownership” as far as I know is a certificate of title, including any vehicle I’ve bought from a dealer, or private owner. So, the “history” of that vehicle since day one has always been the State the car was registered in a the “real owner”? Anybody that know’s the answer to this one, “How do you prove you’re the owner of the car with no title, or registration”?
I would like info on my case my lic was suspended in Illinois I had a valid Indiana drivers lic I was pulled over in Illinois where I worked they said I was not allowed to drive in Illinois and aressted me and impounded my car I’m now fighting It in court I was alone and on my way home from work when This happened
Stephanie,
They removed your PRIVILAGE to drive in the state. You were granted a right to travel by the Constitution, Liberty….Its two different animals…Everything should be handled through the mail, within 3 days…..If you go into court, its their domain and you are considered dead…..and thats another beast….They are liars cheats and thieves. 2% of the worlds population and 25% of the worlds prisoners….
what about in Canada?
Hey there I just moved to California from Canada I’m in the process of filing for a SSN but will still take a few months I need to drive to college and back can I drive a car without a license as I can’t get one without SSN?? Also could you give a snippet of what to say to a cop in case I get pulled over thanks I appreciate it a lot!!
This is mind blowing, I came across this website after looking for a 50cc scooter, something i could drive to and from probation with out a drivers license to complete an addiction program for the next 2 years. I have not had a license over 25 years for a driving on a restricted license. Ive never herd of Travel VS privilege to drive. The rights everyone has stated i was totally unaware of and boy do i feel stupid/ ignorant. Im 58 and a military veteran & own my home. I was arrested for a DV charge Dec. 2 2016 over a person that owes me thousands of dollars and will not pay me back, yes i did go to jail. I have not worked since 2009 and near broke now. I want to complete this program so I can get my life back on track without the disease i have/had.I have been clean/sober every since. Im to old to get in trouble anymore and lost all desire to do what wrecked 1/4 of my life.Being able to drive would give me back me freedom to go places,get back to work and complete this program. Anyones help would be greatly appreciated.
Hello, can you point me in the right direction for the application of a “traveling paper” document. I am in Connecticut. I spoke to someone who said they got their brother out by producing this document to the court and he got his bond back.
How do I go about challenging their jurisdiction in Michigan. I brought this up to my court appointed lawyer on a driving while license suspended case And he laughed at me. I would like to challenge it on a constitutional basis but I don’t know how.
My license is revoked and I’m going to traffic court he want me to pay for tickets to get them back what can I do
This ain’t gonna work… if your stopped while behind the wheel of a car on a highway by some hard arsed cop waearing a gun. He IS going to do you what ever obscure laws you want to quote at him. Plenty of people get thrown in jail by representitives of this police state for not doing anything illegal.
This isn’t 1780 when you could go where you liked, do what you liked and you were your own law as long as you stood tall and were hard enough to knock anyone down who disputed it.
We are all fecked by the mass wimps of the world…
Hi all, the PDF document I’m posting is 100% correct.
https://notpayingtaxeslawfully.wordpress.com
If this is not accessable, this link is the same document, but from a different perspective.
https://licensenotrequired.wordpress.com
Canada, North America, Uk, Australia, New Zealand, and a few others, are all under the primary control of Elizabeth Windsor. All barristers are oathed to her. Statute is a rule, which, if accepted, is governed by her; notwithstanding some common rights pertinent to specific countries.
A human is free, but the juristic person, (registration of fictitious person, Mr, Miss) is owned by the state. If you accept this fictitious person and represent it, you have to obey their rules. A human cannot dictate to another human what it can or cannot do, save injury or death, or property theft/destruction. A fictitious person (police, judge, government official) cannot ditate to a human, as they are a fiction. If done, then recourse in law, (common law, meaning jury of twelve persons) as to unlawful action by official, who acted through human contractor as agent, i.e., policeman/woman (man/woman employed to act as) arrested human person, but did not arrest the juristic person, can be taken, and a pecuniary advantage, (fine, lien) can be demanded.
Hope this helps….
Very well said..YES it is all true…We are under BRITISH MARITIME LAW…FREEMASONRY.
The only part of the United States is the piece of garbage called WASHINGTON D. C. THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA..a Masonc term..COLUMBIA as the hollywood studio(COLUMBIA PICTURES)..a MASONIC GOD .
ALL THE OTHER LAND IS OWNED BY THE CROWN and the deed is in TEMPLE BAR in LONDON under a TRUST.
THE MAJORITY OF LAWYERS ARE FREEMASONS AND KNOW THIS!!!
Jordan Maxwell has explained this for many years,as well as others. you can find Jordan Maxwell on youtube videos
hi, my mother lost my birth certificate when I was younger and she never got a replacement.. Seeing how I was born on a U.S. military base overseas I have not been able to request a new birth certificate without massive complications, to where I have to go to where I was originally born at which I can’t without a passport.. I can’t get a passport without my birth certificate.. so I would like to travel but seeing how I am disabled mother of two and my husband is also disabled and there are times I need to drive his truck back home.. if I wanted to get my license I can’t, which I don’t want to get it because I do not believe I should have to get a license just to travel to the store for food.. now is there a way I can inform the police department that I am traveling without a license and I am standing up for my constitutional and civil rights as a woman to travel without a license???
This is my answer to the problem. It’s a single page document. I have not had the privilege of using it yet.
After asking if I am free to go, if the response is no, I will give this to the officer and keep my mouth shut.
_________________________________________________
NOTICE TO OFFICERS
I am unarmed, and offer no resistance to you doing what you perceive to be your job. However, because you are heavily armed and I rightfully fear for my life, I will remain in the safety and protection of my locked car at all times. I also invoke my right to remain silent during this encounter, and I do not consent to any search, incidental or otherwise. My muteness is not intended to be rude or disrespectful to you or your office, merely an exercise of my protected right to remain silent.
By continuing this detainment you give your consent to be filmed and recorded for the public record and the safety of all involved. I reserve the right to do so at my discretion.
I am traveling today in my Private capacity, under my Common Law right to do so, and not exercising agency or office as a legal person on behalf of any governmental entity. Because of that fact, it would be illegal and unlawful for me to present you with any documents that would suggest otherwise, such as a drivers license or other documents identifying such a legal person or status.
In lieu of and for your convenience, I have included a photocopy of the drivers license I obtained for use as identification of the fictional legal person I administrate during times I choose to act in agency or for governmental purposes. It is also provided as evidence of my competency in controlling my conveyance. I do not and can not authorize it’s use today without engaging in fraud, and by using it’s information you agree to accept any liability or penalty for it’s unauthorized use. You further agree to stand as surety for and represent the legal person it identifies in any matter arising from this detainment and/or your use of the information, including any court proceedings.
PHOTOCOPY OF LICENSE
Number xxxxxxxxx
Legal Person – XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Address – XXXXXXXXXXXX
DOB – x-x-x
I choose to not sign any documents or contract with you in any way today. If you wish to make any documents or citations concerning this detainment, you may pass them to me through the window and attach this document to the copy you keep as part of the public record so made. I reserve all rights, including the right to pursue damages for any violation of my rights under color of law.
I wish you a safe and peaceful day.
_________________________________________
I can’t imagine any cop doing anything other than sending me on my way. But cops are not always rational or reasonable people.
If he writes a ticket, that is fine by me and he agrees to stand as surety for the charges and in representing the legal fiction the court will recognize. I will show up as administrator and direct the judge to address him in the matter.
No threats, and it is NOT my job to educate him or quote pointless law or court decisions. I tell him who I am, and who I am not.
Maybe one day I will get the opportunity to see how well it works.
I have a drivers license for specific purposes, but that in no way indicates that I am always on duty representing the legal fiction it identifies.
Comments are welcome.
You are all complete idiots. The Constitution was written before motor cars.obviously we need rules for operating these giant, fast machines so we don’t all die. Part of that is proving you know how to safely operate it.
You are free to travel, which means you cannot be barred from moving from one state to another, but you sure as hell need a license to drive a car.
Quit being dicks and get your entitled asses to the DMV
what a load of drivel. So you are telling me it is safe and right for me or my son who do not hold licenses to jump in van and “travel around the country.
Well if so when we cause a pill up, hit a child that may be yours, lets see how you go on constitutional rights then. Idiots.
Darren if u choose to obey your servants that’s your choice. I’m a master unlike yourself and I do what I want as long as I’m not violating another humans rights. No victim no crime. Protect and serve is the government s job. Protect our rights and serve justice on those that violate ours. Unconstitutional laws are laws that violate our rights. Laws are rules and regulations created by the government to force obedience. To obey. If you or your child was traveling then you are responsible for your actions. If you hit my kid you violated a right. You should get locked up if u can’t pay damages losses or injuries. It’s obvious you are very obedient to your servants so whose the idiot slave.
Hi I live in the state of PA.5/24/17 I was traveling in my vehicle heading to a mechanic to get an issue looked at with my vehicle and afterwards heading to church for a special event. In less than half an hour I was stopped in my vehicle and then officer pulled up behind me suggesting that my inspection and Emissions stickers were invalid. This was correctly so which is also the reason I was going to the mechanic. My driver’s license was suspended however I was not using my vehicle for any type of commercial activity only for only for personal use under the right to travel. Needless to say in the state of PA my vehicle was impounded and now I have to deal with occurring penalty fees due to impoundment storage. Is there any way to dispute this in court and have my vehicle released without having to pay incurred penalty fees? My vehicle checked out fine and clear, as stated by the officer. My vehicle was impounded because of my driver’s license being suspended.
I live (am domiciled) in New Mexico state, which now requires all new or re-newed driver’s licenses to conform to the Real ID Act, which I know is an undisclosed adhesion contract for tax entrapment purposes.
My current driver’s license is due to expire soon, and I want to use the opportunity to return all indicia of contractual obligation (driver’s license, license plate, certificate of title, and registration) to the state Tax and Revenue department/MVD (I’m not sure which ).
I would like to find solid information for carrying out the above procedure, and what I will need to have instead for Traveling non-commercially in my private capacity as a free and sovereign man on the land.
Do I notify the local/state police of my lawful rights, or simply deal with them as the occasion arises?
I would LOVE TO HEAR from anyone who has knowledge/experience in New Mexico, or which can be applied to my situation!
Can anyone help?
MUCH obliged,
Scott
You need to have your private vehicle that you use non-commercially registered in accordance with your state law, and you need to also have a valid drivers license. Spare yourself the trouble that you will definitely get into by following the BS on this site and others like it. The “license and registration not needed for travel” argument is an incredibly bad one, and will only cause you trouble. There is no basis for the arguments these guys make, the ability for states to regulate private travel has been upheld in courts since the 1920’s. Trying to change current law via the appropriate channels is fine, and I applaud those who are attempting to do so. However. Until such laws have been effectively changed, I would adhere to the current laws as they are written. That’s my two cents.
I have been trying to travel ie not drive in canada as a canadian citizen but the police take the car anyway even thought its not myn and is registered to my gf and we buy permits to drive the car witch is insurance for the car i have a driving prohibition for 2 years and it was supposed to be up in november 23th i was traveling recently to a campsite not driving and the police pulled my gfs car over for going over the speed limit even though i was over taking another car that was going 60kmh in a 80 kmh zone i didnt even get a chance to slow the car down
I am very interested.
Could you please send send me any information you have.
in 1998,i took what was my final road test,i had taken 5 others,which resulted in the same result.FAILED.I LATER LEARNED THAT MY ESTRANGED FATHER MORRIS B.MATSIL HAD BRIBED THE DMV,WITH A LETTER FROM A PHONY MD.WHO CLAIMED TO HELP PEOPLE WITH SO-CALLED MENTAL PROBLEMS,SENT A LETTER TO NORMAN CONDIT,AND JOYCE BEEKMAN,WHO FAILED ME ON MY ROAD TEST,THAT TEST THE EXAMINER TOLD ME TO DRIVE AWAY FROM THE PLACE WHERE APPLICANTS WHO PASS.SO I AM NOW CONTEMPLATING 2 SCENEARIOS,EITHER SUE BOTH,DMV,AND MY ESTRANGED FATHER,OR DIE.SINCE MORRIS MAY NOT BE MY BIOLOGICAL FATHER.ALSO NOW WITH THIS FASCIST MAN IN ALBANY,SIGNING A BILL,INTO LAW,ONLY ALLOWING 6 ROAD TESTS,MY LIFE IS OVER.TOO BAD THEY DID NOT HAVE ABORTION WHEN I WAS BORN.WISH I WAS ABORTED.I HATE LIFE,MORRIS IS GARBAGE.WISH HE WOULD DROP DEAD.!
p.s.in another road test,the examiner,slammed the gear shift lever of my mother’s 1978 pontiac bonneville,into park,i had to keep my foot on the break pedal to avoid an accident,collision caused by this evil road test examiner.ciao.!
i live in illinois. i got a DUI after i got home. i was sitting in my car then was getting out when cops pulled up. they said get back in the car. now i lost my license. how do i drive and not get arrested
Very good. Is there a print one can carry with them , that can be showed { to someone }
Thank you R. Doug Hutchins
hutchins@blackfoot.net
This is good and more people should be conscious of this. Thank you again.
I have been reading up on this right to travel. And I got pulled over a few days after finding out about all this. Now I have to go to court for drive with and speeding. I got the court date pushed forward to due more reasearch. Is there something that I can send to the courts to have this case droped. My wife asked them of this right to travel and they told her for me not to try that bullshit in there court room. We are located in Cleveland Ohio . Thanks for any help
Don’t try that “bullshit” in “their” courtroom? Ha! Well they certainly act like its “their” courtroom when they act so corruptly.
Anyway, there’s no “bullshit” in asserting a right. You can see a collection of rulings here from all sorts of judges – district, state and federal – upholding the right to travel and drive without a license. This will be very useful for you:
https://wearechange.org/u-s-supreme-court-says-no-license-necessary-to-drive-automobile-on-public-highwaysstreets/
So should I print this and send it to them and tell them it needs to be droped. I still trying to get a better understanding . I have seen this article befor. I got court oct 10 just trying to see if I should try send them something . Or go in front of the judge and see if I end up in jail. Lol
Hi I was wondering if this is the same in Australia
thanks jaydon
And I was also wondering if I can “travel” when im only 14 years old but I can stir,park,go foward fast e.c.t
After trying to speak with the sherrif in my town (missouri) about all of this, he told me if I drive without a license I will be promptly ticketed or arrested. Is he bsing or do I need to educate him on this better? I agree with everything posted, have never had a license, do not work and would only be travelling to grocery store, doctor appts and for my kids.. so Any help is appreciated 🙂
Hello my name is Sharone & I’m from Va. I go 2 court on Dec. 20 for driving on a suspended license. How do I create a defense against that charge. basically what are my next steps?
dear office i feel that in 2018 i will be losing my civil rights to drive as i was in a motorcycle wreck in 2008 due to a crew from the dept. of transportation which made a large mistake with none help from the chp. as now i have a plate with 6 screws holding my left wrist which is at 46 percent i frond as i still drive bikes as i can not drive a car i went to the dmv to practice on their spot for motorcycle driver i seem not to turn the small turning as i have pains in side my wrist has been under a xray i almost drop my bike in real driving i have no pains i do not turn this much the dmv has books dated 2016 to study if i do not get my 2nd free license i feel that a handacapped driver needs a type of new license to drive thank you jay
Driving is a pivledge, NOT A CIVIL RIGHT.
I am really impressed with the writing in this blog.
The painfl story of my sspended drivers license is a long one. I was 25 when it began now i am 48.
My life has been a living hell because of this situation.
It started with my car being illegal, and i wasnt even the person who put the fake emissions/inspection stickers on.
It was my husband (now ex) It just escalated when i didnt pay tickets due to limited income and 2 small children i was raising ALONE. I wont go into the full story because it would take much to long to write out everything .
I am wondering Makia if you are saying that a person can request that their drivers number be cancelled permanently? Thereby ending any contract between myself and department of motor vehicles? In the situation i am right now i am terrified to drive under suspension as i went to jail the last time i was pulled over! However if i have no license instead of a suspended one maybe i wold not get into as much trouble. This situation has cost me my freedom every single day, i cant do anything for myself and that includes working everywhere you apply they ask for a drivers license, when i pull out my state issued id its pretty obvious i am unlicensed. I have lived in continual financial hardship and every day i pray there is something i can do to fix this and get my freedom back. I have never had an at falt accident had only one moving violation back in 1993 and never a DUI, or speeding etc. Its all been due to suspension, expired tags, inspection outdated and once because i was on the side of the road with a flat tire and state police pulled up demanded my identification, then ran my name and gave me yet another ticket, another time i was at the gas station i pulled in and there was a cop who knew i had no license so he gave me a ticket even though i was parked.
Its crazy what the government does to its citizens. how can we have a strong successful country when we punish harshly and take away their freedom to work and live life in a normal manner. Not everyone is lucky enough to have someone drive them everywhere they need to be and people get sick of being asked eventually.I have had my entire life ruined over this.
I lived in Colorado for 2 yrs ,got license taken for dui and never got them back that was in 2010 ,so I have been driving without since I’ve been pulled over gotten tickets ,haven’t paid them and haven’t heard anything on them ,and have no warrants
I hope all that stuff comes back to bite you in the ass.
For starters you comment your license was revoked for DUI like it’s not a big deal. And after that you KEPT DRIVING. Yeah, cause that’s what they meant by that…. FUCK. I need to leave this website RIGHT NOW.
I’m getting the urge of stabbing each and every one of you retarded monkeys.
I have a question so with the right to travel can I still drive a car if it’s not for business. I live In NY. I have my permit but failed my first road test which is not too easy. I have no one to teach me to drive only the driving schools but they cost money. I would really like to have my own car to keep practicing with I would say I’m a good driver very cautious but still have to practice more. It’s not easy to do that without a car and I can’t afford to keep paying for classes. Any advice?
I’m in Lake County Florida. I recently got pulled over for not having a tag on my homemade trailer (personal use). I got a ticket for NOT having a visible tag. I explained that it was just purchased and that I was going to get it registered.
Now I have to go to court. Not sure how I should handle this.
I did get the trailer registered the following day.
Totally confused and need advise.
You all should watch the video where they taze the stupid fucker (like yourselves) who tried to pull this crap on a cop.
“I’m not driving, I’m TRAVELLING”. Gimme a break drama queens.
Why do you tell people this garbage, some of them are stupid enough to believe it. Police officers are in court constantly and have a WORKING knowledge of the law. Yes , you CAN travel all day long, but IF you operating a motor vehicle over 1.5 brake horsepower, you’ll be arrested, and you won’t speak to his supervisor until you get to the station (if your lucky). Talk all day long, it wont do any good. Eventually the offficer will stop being amused, he’ll ask you to step out of the car. If you do, your going to jail, if you don’t your going to jail, with a stop at the hospital depending how much you resist.
Officers write tickets all the time. They go to court against a variety of lawyers and judges, they have seen it all. Travel on a bike, horse, moped,whatever, but if it has over 1.5 horsepower (atv, snowmobile, larger moped, motorcycle,car,RV,truck) then your going to jail. Travel all day if you want, but operating a motor vehicle is a privledge , not a right. Besides, there are so many poor drivers out there, I would think you would want a drivers license just to have defensive driving capabilities.
Police have a working knowledge of their jurisdiction. Most cops don’t even know that their are multiple jurisdictions.
Judges from local, state and federal courts for 100+ years have upheld the right to travel. Who has a better knowledge of the law – a policeman or a judge?
A policeman. A judge will adjudicate it as they see fit, without sentencing rules. They can throw out a case for no reason at all, no knowledge needed. A police officer that gets too many tickets null-pros will earn an investigation.
Also remember-MVA/ DMV rules are STATEWIDE, not per jurisdiction. Only parking violations change. With computers and mobile terminals, police know what your record is in your home state , and if your suspended or not . There is a law in the US, if your suspended in 1 state, your suspended in all states (called reciprocity). Oddly enough , most states have the same rules of the road, just different penalties.
Police officers don’t take tickets to federal court, so federal vehicle laws are mute as they don’t enforce them (unless specifically trained for 3 extra weeks at commercial motor vehichle school). I wrote over 10,000 citations in my career, but ONLY to really really bad people, most of the time I just showed them what was wrong and asked them to fix it when they got home.
That being said, some judges do know the laws better than officers, if the judge is old and the officer is new.
My point is the existence of commercial (admiralty law) and non-commercial (common law) jurisdictions. Traveling remains a right under common law. If the driver is not engaged in commerce at the time of the alleged infraction, he/she cannot be forced to step into commercial jurisdiction and forced into trading a right for a privilege. Policeman are making a PRESUMPTION that the driver is in commercial jurisdiction. This is not a fact. Presumptions can be rebutted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohrXMwfcUb4 reminder if you try doing this expect to be on one of these
I wonder if piloting a motorized carriage (car, truck) is considered inherently being engaged in commerce, given you have to fill the tank?
I’m near Peoria where are you guys
I think what no one here is considering is the difference between Federal and state law. Federal law states traveling is a fundamental right; however, state’s have the right to suppress federal laws, this is why marijuana is legal in some states, but is still federally illegal. By living in a state’s jurisdiction you agree to their laws, if this wasn’t the case no one would pay state tax, because no where have I ever signed a form saying I would volunteer to pay tax it is just assumed.
This is a crock your talking apples and oranges their both sweet and tasty they just happens that their different but means the same. The law is the law our forefathers got things where they are now because people try to skirt the law in their favor, remember the mob, dirty politicians and city workers they got rid of those things because the little man was working the hardest and being taken advantage of the most, a lawless land is the worst land you can have and worse part about it is unlicensed uninsured drivers will cause insurance to go up and there will be more hit and run accidents, nothing good can come of this
You are so utterly full of shit. Why are you purposely creating punks out of people who think they’re too good or important to follow the rules the rest of us follow? Is it because it’s fun to twist the minds of the incredibly stupid? Basically you’re encouraging people to make a pain in the ass of themselves, because they’re otherwise shitty people, and this is an excellent way for them to inflict themselves on the rest of us. I saw one of the shitheads that does this yesterday, and it was all I could do not to get up in his face and tell him what a waste of space he is. This piece of shit is doing everything your type tells him to do, because he’s too stupid to realize he’s advertising to the world that he’s a fucking loser. Why don’t you morons just try being decent people for once in your lives. I’m so sick of the arrogance of people like you. You don’t have any secrets that need revealing, because you know something the rest of us don’t, You create stupidity, and wallow in the fact that you can fool these morons into doing anything you talk them into doing. People who are pathetic will follow your advice. You aren’t “freemen”. You’re a bunch of entitled assholes. It’s sickening that there are actually people stupid enough to do the things you say. I was actually surprised there are still any of you left. I thought people with stronger minds than you had already disproven the bullshit you feed the willing. I guess there’s a sucker born every minute, and he drives a truck with “traveler” as his license plate. Really, you’re just catering to the scummiest people. Anyone who never stopped being a rotten punk, has now got your permission to never act like an adult. Nice job, idiot.
Stacey E…your whole ranting temper tantrum just proves to me and most likely many others, that 1) You have described yourself quite well, you should be proud! 2) You are and most likely have always been a bully which shows that you either have very abusive parents and or siblings or you yourself have been bullied. 3) You seem to be full of hate and 4) You don’t seem very educated..ok,I’ve said my piece on that one. Now to move on to more important stuff. Have an awesome day!!
I live in Portland, Oregon and I really need to talk to someone who is fully educated on the Right to Travel. Please email me at courtneyshaffer76@gmail.com as soon as possible please and thank you.
You guys are freaking idiots! Try this, don’t wear a seat belt then get hit by a car that runs a red light and the car that hits you is going 10mph over the speed limit and is driven by an unlicensed, uninsured “traveler”. I wonder if you’re still going to try and convince people the stupid right to travel laws are to be used as a way to shirk license and insurance responsibilities from your hospital bed if you’re lucky enough to live.
To Stacey E, you have concept of what the purpose of life is, understand what I’m about to explain to you, everyone is created equally by a divine power, this divine power included natural laws within the design, you might know these laws as KARMA, any action that doesn’t cause harm to a living being (including animals) is your right, to clarify, you have actions of harm that exist and you have actions or rights that exist, any other belief system that deviates away from this is the result of the brainwashing that has been taking place for a very long time, you can continue to ignore it and call it a crazy theory if you please, the dark occults( meaning secret/hidden) more powerful tool is the fact that it’s kept hidden. This is what it is like or leave it , it’s up to you.
You are obviously nescient and I excuse for this, if it turns out your are ignorant instead of nescient then you are guilty of having the information required in front of you but you choose not to consider it while you continue on your path of spreading the mental illness that the occultists have cast upon you.
Inaction upon the knowledge of a wrongdoing and action of wrongdoing are equally wrong and equally dealt with by natural law a.k.a Karma.
Dear Lisa
calling people idiots doesn’t make them idiots, exposing the idiotic ideas and words certainly does,
I will use you as an example and expose you without calling you an idiot.
1. are you trying to imply that having a licence means you are a perfect drivers and you can never make a mistake or cause an accident.
are you saying people without a licence whether they are people who have good morals or they are an armed robber in a get away chase from police are more likely to cause an accident, is that what your saying?
you are so under an occult spell you actually think you are right, your words are exactly the scenario that they infect peoples minds with.
fact , I see and know many people that have a licence who are terrible drivers , so how do suppose they got a licence? I’ll explain to you, imagine a world that was run by an evil that has infiltrated every aspect of authority like the DMV (not sure if that is the correct name ,I’m from Australia) the DMV would be compartmentalized and eash section has it policies, these polices are put in place by the evil (the same evil own hospitals, pharmacies, insurance,banks etc)now these policies are the policies that we all see and we question why they don’t make sense a lot of the time, the same policy that with give your 16 year old child a licence even though you know your child is a nervous driver and they not ready to drive , this is done randomly by the DMV, so basically they have slack policies concerning the issuing of licences and the competence of the driver being tested, ( this is a massive problem in Australia), Ok Lisa are you following this, do you get the picture, The DMV are putting peoples loved ones in danger, can you honestly say the DMV is spending enough money on teaching people how to drive to a certain high standard, they could be implementing advanced driving courses where inexperienced drivers are put in situations that could arise like loss of control or having to stop quickly on an icy road.
When a inexperienced driver is faced with an unexpected situation for the first time they will more than likely handle that situation in a way that is undesired and deadly due to lack of experience.
so Lisa would you agree with what i have just said ? the DMV could have a huge impact on making the drivers and roads much safer but they are not doing so, they are only concerned about revenue raising but wait there is more, lowering road death or injuries would negate the need for insurance, think about it, do you really believe that the layout of roads, painted lines, traffic lights, speed limits etc can’t be improved and we already went over the improvement of drivers ability,
certains speeds limits over a long distance are known to cause fatigue and increase chances of falling asleep , studies have shown that a 30-40km higher limit on 100km roads actually lowered the number of incidents on a black spot locations by 50%, the higher speed means your spending less times on the road so the odds of an incident are reduced and at that speed you have to remain in a more alert state to be able to continue driving.
the 100km/60mph limits are not an accident , these speeds have intentionally been put in place because they induce fatigue and sleep , in the last 70 years cars have seen massive improvements in all aspects , driving a 2012 Suzuki Kazashi at 100km feels like you could get out an run faster and yet we still see the same old speed limits and laylout with little or no new innovation.
My point is that for evil who controls this place their needs to be a certain amount of chaos on the road for people to be convinced that the need to by compulsory public liability insurance and optional property damage insurance exists, I have a feeling property insurance will also become compulsory soon.
no Lisa what we are saying is that a revenue raising authority that hands out a plastic card to our children and family members and giving our family members and children the illusion that they are ready to drive putting them in danger while they profit from the community losing their loved ones is wrong
DMV’s are not required,
have you ever tried arguing with a child or a family member who just got there licence but you can see they are not ready to drive yet? yet they win the argument when they say they have a licence.
the first rule I was taught when I learnt to drive was to never be over confident , understand your ability and your level of experience, skill and never ever close your mind off to learning more and never think that you have reached some pinnacle where you are a complete zen master driver even after 40 years or driving experience, the DMV does exactly that when they had over that plastic card, I was lucky that my godfather eradicated that though from my head before I even got my licence, why ? because he cared
ditch the DMV’s , Ditch used car yards, make manufacturers of motor vehicles responsible for the sale of used cars and teaching and testing drivers when they purchase a vehicle as a part of the purchase with a industry watchdog and strict reprimands for breaches of human safety, they make the cars they have to create the remedy and carry the duty of care.
ditch fees for using roads ie registration, enforce new road rules with penalties that help the community, if your do the wrong thing then your weekend will be spent doing something that uses your energy to help the unfortunate people of the community, i’m sure many people in the community would have many great ideas and these are just examples.
eradicate this common theme of extracting the fruits of peoples labor, make no mistake about it , it is theft.
I’m one of those people that is refusing to pay registration and I’m exercising my right to travel without a licence or having to pay fines, not because i’m a bad person , not because I don’t care about other people and not because I promote lawlessness, I/we do it because I/we have awakened and see the what is happening , our rights are slowly being eroded and I can tell you that we don’t have any rights anymore, they are gone and this is going to be a long hard battle for many of us unless we all unite and demand what is our god given right
I’m sorry to say Lisa but I know I wasn’t created to work for 65 years while imposters like governments, dmv’s, tax departments etc take 95 % of the fruits of my labour not leaving me any time or chance to actually live before I’m to old, disheartened and worn out to even contemplate absorbing any of the true experience that this existence was actually intended for.
If your doubting that the authorities that I speak of are imposters and you still believe people like me who are the ones that are a threat to your safety you need to understand that i’m not the one that is denying you your rights and telling you what you can and can’t do and even if you were to do something immoral it is not with in my power to command you or rule you , do you know why ? because equals can’t ever have any authority over equals and although we have people who running around saying they have a divine right to rule ( this is the true behaviour of insanity , these people need to be institutionalized) common sense tells me that is just not possible and I’m not going to get in to why, it’s absurd.
you can’t have a group of equals who want to control other equals by creating a set of rules that benefit themselves while this is all shadowed with secrecy, rules that force the majority of equals to give up what they have gained through their own labor and sweat.
I’m sorry to say this Lisa but it’s people like you that are taking to long to wake that allow this to continue, your ego controls you and reassures you that your right and that is what is happening in your little box of existence, because that is what is happening as far you can see.
I remain hopeful that if the Lisa within and not the ego the real Lisa or Lisa’s in the world could see the bigger picture from outside the box, an immediate awakening would transpire.
“Whereas defined pursuant to Supreme Court Annotated Statute; Chicago Coach Co. v. City of Chicago,337 Ill. 200, 169 N.E. 22: “No State government entity has the power to allow or deny passage on the highways, byways, nor waterways… transporting his vehicles and personal property for either recreation or business, but by being subject only to local regulation i.e., safety, caution, traffic lights, speed limits, etc.Whereas defined pursuant to Supreme Court Annotated Statute; Chicago Coach Co. v. City of Chicago,337 Ill. 200, 169 N.E. 22: Travel is not a privilege requiring licensing, vehicle registration, or forced insurances.”
Just to site a few higher court rulings on the subject: “Whereas defined pursuant to Supreme Court Annotated Statute; Chicago Coach Co. v. City of Chicago,337 Ill. 200, 169 N.E. 22: “No State government entity has the power to allow or deny passage on the highways, byways, nor waterways… transporting his vehicles and personal property for either recreation or business, but by being subject only to local regulation i.e., safety, caution, traffic lights, speed limits, etc.Whereas defined pursuant to Supreme Court Annotated Statute; Chicago Coach Co. v. City of Chicago,337 Ill. 200, 169 N.E. 22: Travel is not a privilege requiring licensing, vehicle registration, or forced insurances.”
Whereas defined pursuant to Supreme Court Annotated Statute; City of Chicago v Collins 51 NE 907, 910:“Those who have the right to do something cannot be licensed for what they already have right to do as such license would be meaningless.”
Whereas defined pursuant to Supreme Court Annotated Statute; Payne v. Massey (19__) 196 SW 2nd 493,145 Tex 273: “The object of a license is to confer a right or power, which does not exist without it.”
Whereas defined pursuant to Supreme Court Annotated Statute; Wingfield v. Fielder 2d Ca. 3d 213 (1972):“The court makes it clear that a license relates to qualifications to engage in profession, business, trade or calling; thus, when merely traveling without compensation or profit, outside of business enterprise or adventure with the corporate state, no license is required of the natural individual traveling for personal business, pleasure and transportation.”
And another one because they seem to go away on there own. The records are the same and the high court rulings are the law.
“Whereas defined pursuant to Supreme Court Annotated Statute; Chicago Coach Co. v. City of Chicago,337 Ill. 200, 169 N.E. 22: Travel is not a privilege requiring licensing, vehicle registration, or forced insurances.”
https://www.scribd.com/document/169103955/Common-Law-Trust-No-License-Necessary-U-S-Supreme-Court-and-other-High-Court-Citations-Proving-That-No-License-is-Necessary-for-Normal-Use-of-an-Aut
Just ge5 a freaking license. 25$ for 5 years. My time is worth much more than arguing with the police
Read the snopes article and tell me where it is wrong. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/supreme-court-rules-drivers-licenses-unnecessary/
You can’t let anyone else do your thinking for you. Snopes and other so-called “fact checkers” want you to believe you can just outsource your thinking, but as I discussed in this article, who will fact check the fact checkers?
https://thefreedomarticles.com/icfn-international-fact-checking-network/
Also see for this Snope’s promotion of GMOs and pesticides:
https://foodbabe.com/do-you-trust-snopes-you-wont-after-reading-how-they-work-with-monsanto-operatives/
As for your question … what the Snopes article (and other similar arguments) fails to address is that we live in 2 separate jurisdictions. Statutes (which are by definition maritime and commercial in nature) only have the effect of law with the consent of the governed, i.e. if you willingly submit yourself to that jurisdiction and agree to abide by them. Any so-called law stating you must have a driver’s license is a statute based ont he presumption that you are transacting within commercial or admiralty law.
This is the fundamental presumption which must be busted.
A true unalienable right cannot be regulated or taken away from you, otherwise it is a privilege.
I have been fortunate enough to be working for Jean Keating for 4 years now – he hasn’t had a “drivers license” in 30 YEARS.
Bryan
You’re citing Food Babe? haha, seems legit. I’d totally believe a woman who thinks microwaves make food into nazis
FOR MORE ON DRIVER’S LICENSE LAW, READ THE SECOND(2ND)and THIRD (3RD)COMMENT HERE. REMEMBER, THE 2ND AND 3RD COMMENTS. INCLUSED LINKS TO THE LAW. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99564-Eddie-Craig-the-former-deputy-sheriff-hoax&p=1176728#post1176728
Ok I’ve got one for you I live in California and I am a registered tribal member living on a reservation while I was traveling I stopped at a tribal casino in my unregistered truck, and I don’t have a liscense either while inside of the casino a sherriffs deputy was checking plates in the parking lot and decided to tow my truck but before it was loaded on the tow truck I walked out to see him loading it up and asked him what he was doing towing my truck and informed him that he couldn’t tow it because I am a tribal member on tribal lands a did not need registration or a liscense to travel on tribal lands. And he had search my vehicle without my consent and found 2 loaded firearms behind the seat this was pryor to me exiting the casino. He asked me to turn around and put my hands behind my back and I did upon searching without my consent he found on my persons a dope pipe and a small amount of dope. All the while I kept telling him he had no right to tow my vehicle. I did end up in jail but was bailed out about 10 hrs later. And I’m sure he is going to say he had probable cause to search my vehicle because he seen bullets sitting on my seat. I think that without the unregistered vehicle that was parked on private property owned by the tribe that he would have never been able to search the vehicle or me. I was even told by the tribal chairman that the sheriff is not supposed to be policing the parking lot like that. Do you have any thing I can present in court to get this case dismissed and my property back
Reading some of these post only adds to your stupidity. Then you wonder why cops get so pissed off at you. Instead of being a You tube Lawyer get a real job and just don’t do shit that will get you pulled over. IDIOTS
FOR MORE ON EDDIE CRAIG AND THE LAW, CLICK HERE> http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99564-Eddie-Craig-the-former-deputy-sheriff-hoax&p=1176723#post1176723
You people need serious mental help.
I think they got the knife on their side….they will find bullshit to fuck u up….even if non-existent
Good luck with your good cause wish I had myself the gut to sustain all this to maintain my rights….
I wanted to ask what you do about having car insurance. How can you get insurance if you have no license, and your car isn’t registered? What do you do if you crash into someone and injure them or total their car? Do you have a way of getting a large amount of cash to pay for that?
Hi i came across this article and read so many of the different responses, everyone here makes great arguments and are very informed, however i do find that in my findings so far that there is a difference between a driver and a traveler. So i am reaching out to all you knowledgeable people because i have not yet done all my research but am interested in learning more about this fundamental right to travel on the public highways. First a little about myself i am 29 years old i have never applied or received a drivers license at all, i lived in the city most of my life and never needed one to move around however i have currently moved to a royal area and will be needing a motor vehicle, until i can afford one i will be using my dads vehicle.I only need it to get me to and from work and take my gf out and you know the normal personal related things people do on a day to day basis. I have studied the drivers handbook to a fault and know how to drive im cautious and drive the speed limit i obey all the traffic laws out there, so if i do all this i obey the laws and i am in fact traveling then what would happen if i get pulled over ? what documents should i present to the officer like for example im using my dads car so its insured and tagged and everything is legit but i don’t have a drivers license because i am only traveling from point A to Point B. i want to have a good defense for the officer and for myself i want to know all there is to know and the ppl on this site have done so much research already on the subject i just want to get your feedback on how to handle this. i have watched some different u tube videos on the subject and most everyone has a folder they pull out with all this paper work and they hand that to the officer, i want to know what should i give him aka case numbers as stated in the beginning of this article and if so do i need to print out the hole page or just the part about where it explains the right of travel between the states. Any info you can give would be great. I am very patriotic i believe in what America stood for justice and freedom for all her people i have never broken any laws in my life but i will not sacrifice my freedoms because i am afraid of what harm my actions may cause to me. We all have to stand for something in this world it don’t matter if one of you don’t believe in what this article is trying to state because that is your right, your belief, i don’t expect you to understand but i do expect ppl to respect ones decision as well as the next persons, as long as my actions and beliefs don’t hinder or stop you from your life liberty and pursuit of happiness. We are a diverse ppl with different ideals and i believe that is what makes us so unique. The case laws mentioned in this article do hold weight just as much as the cases that have said everyone has to have a drivers license to operate a motor vehicle, its a double sided coin just like life maybe one side is right maybe one side is wrong but let the coin fall as it may and ultimately let our citizens of America choose for themselves if what you are asking of us is right,75% of people in the world call me and others in this article dumb or whatever word you would like to use but too that 75% i say there is another 25% of us that don’t agree and feel as though our rights are being violated and a nation divided has already fallen. Now im not saying any old person should jump in a car and say hey im just traveling, that is not responsible im saying if you follow the laws of the road and adhere to them then why do i need a corporate license to travel using my property. I have always stood for my rights and rights of others no matter how big or how small and ppl on here have made great points that you do not need a drivers license to travel between the states but only if you are using your vehicle for commerce and for profit case in point Ubur, i can not be an uber driver as they call them without having my drivers license, i can however travel in my own car as it is my property and i do have a right to my life liberty and pursuit of happiness as long as it don’t supersede your own. By that i mean to educate ones self with a motor vehicle to learn everything there is to learn in the drivers hand book and apply it, be responsible with the rights our founding father gave to us because it is because of those freedoms our nation was so great. Thank you for reading i hope to here back from someone, forgive any misspelling or grammar errors as its been awhile since i last wrote on a comment blog
I live i CA. If you have a California drivers license it is an “adhesion contract’. Basically you give up your right to privacy, agree to sobriety checks including the drawing of blood. Also your license implies you know the hundreds of pages in the vehicle code. ” ignorance of the law is no excuse” . Talk about a losing game!
Don’t challenge the Judge with questions of jurisdiction. Say this to the admistrator, judge. “Your honor would you please ask the prosecutor for proof of person and subject matter jurisdiction in writing”
They Do not have it, and in no way can they produce such evidence.Tell the Judge ” I wish this matter to be dismissed with prejudice”
Any knowledgable comments?
I am a currently breastfeeding by way of pumping mother. If cops decide to put me in jail overnight or longer, what would my rights concerning pumping milk to feed my child be?
You are all a bunch of idiots…….
I meant ” WITHOUT PREJUDICE”..
The license issued to me by the local state was expired then suspended.
I was detained by local city police while traveling in a private capacity in an insured vehicle not registered to me.
I received a summons to appear in court April 1, 2019.
Must I have previously revoked in writing all government contracts such as SS# and other government issued contracts and certificates to back claim up of my Sovereignty to motion change of venue from civil district court under admiralty flag to a court of common law?
No, my understanding is that you do not need to have revoked and cancelled all other contracts.
You can claim common law jurisdiction at any time. It’s all a question of capacity. You may be in commercial/admiralty jurisdiction at one time, then step out at another time and be in common law jurisdiction one minute later. The issue is in what capacity you are acting.
You don’t need any “documents” to back up your sovereignty since it’s your natural state. The burden of proof is on the government to prove you are in commercial/admiralty jurisdiction (specifically that you were acting in this capacity at the time of the allege offense) and to back up their claim with proof – which they cannot.
I understand that I have a tight to travel.
But does it include to use a car at the driver’s seat for it, or an airplane?
Perhaps the officer might say: “Yes, you have a right to travel. Go use a train or a Greyhound!
For traveling by means of steering a car by yourself you need a license.”
I travel without registration or driver license in Nevada. I do not get stopped. I have filed a UCC financing statement showing I have a security interest in my truck that supersedes the STATES interest; and the part of the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) 9-102 part 73 says my truck is consumer goods for the convenience of the household. I made my own plate ” DOT EXEMPT Not for Hire my UCC financing statement number and UCC 1-308 all rights reserved. I also used the Nevada revised statutes to prove I am not in commerce and wrote letters to DPS, DMV, NHP the sheriff and the two police chiefs of why I surrendered my plates and my driver license and also a copy of my plate. Again I do not get stopped.
“NO STATE CAN TAKE A RIGHT and turn it into a privilege and charge a license and a fee for that right… Murdoch v Pennsylvania 319 US 105 (1943)
And that VERDICT by the US Supreme Court …..has NEVER been. . .
1. Overturned 2 Overruled nor 3. Set aside and 4.stands as LAW…. TODAY!
Operating a motor vehicle without a valid Driver’s licence is a crime you can play semantics all you please! a crime is when you violate the laws and misinterpretation of a law is on par to making your own rules.
No – the crime is that the authorities have deliberately misconstrued a law and pretended it applied to everyone when it does not, so as to expand their power and have more control over people.
Historically and lawfully, the driver’s license is only meant to apply to those engaged in commerce on the roads.
Yes it does, wait don’t tell me you have been busted for repeatedly driving while under the influence which does matter to you because you can do whatever you want practicing your alleged right to travel, you are an idiot and a loser.
I am no expert on the intricacies of these laws, but if we follow this reasoning, no driver’s license, no road test, people who don’t know what they are doing will begin to endanger others. Do you want to fly a plane without a license too because you are traveling? I am all for personal freedom but law exists to protect everyone in this case. I don’t see driver’s license as government tyranny. Society functions well if there is a good common sense balance between laws and personal freedom.
One thing to consider here is this: why do you think we need government to monitor this? People have a natural instinct for safety. Most people would not want to drive a car if they felt it endangered themselves or others, out of fear of self-preservation and concern for others’ welfare.
History lesson: The right to travel is a personal liberty. In 1876 it was called “the power of unrestrained locomotion.”
11 Am.Jur. (1st) Constitutional Law, Sect.329, p.1135
Police had to protect you in your safe conduct as you drove without a license. Don’t claim to live in a free country if you have never seen liberty. YES, once upon a time you had a right to unrestrained locomotion to drive down the highway without a license. That is until some ignorant good little citizen waived their right by applying for a license.
I suppose you’re one of them good little citizens who also think they have to follow police orders when they stop you vehicle for a Corona search.
U.S. citizen is a district of columbia [united states] slave……google:revocation of election
Here is the issue if you are not required to have a valid state Driver’s licence to operate a motor vehicle then how do they prevent or even punish those operating while under the influence of alcohol or drugs, oh, that is right th hey cannot.
ANYONE who drives drunk, whether they have a license or not, needs to be arrested.
Really?
Even if they have never caused an accudent? So much for innocent till proved guilty.
Here is how conpletly you ate brainwashed..the united states is basd on the principle of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
One person’s right to pursue happiness ends where another person’s health and property begin. In other words, my right to make a fist ends where your nose begins.
If a people choose to consume alcohol and travel, they commit no crime if they have never injured another people ir damaged their property.
Same goes for victimless crimes of speeding or not stopping at a stop sign.
The state cannot claim injury as cause for punishment as the state can not stand in cout to accuse you.
Plus if no property waa damaged or no one us injured, constitutionally no crine has occured.
The fact is, most peolle are so deeply brainwashed, they no longer see how deeply they have been enslaved nor do they have the capacity to foresee that this tradition of more and more laws equals less and less freedom.
The fact is, no one can prosecute you in the absence of a real injury or property damage without your permission. (Consent) Ergo, this is why they always surrepticiously establish your consent via seemingly innocent requests.
Notice they NEVER START by demanding anything. It always starts with a question like “Would you please roll down your window?” “Do you know why I pulled you over?” “May I see your driver license, registration and insurance please?”
Fact is, asnwering or complying with a single request implies irrevocable consent. You can not demand any of your rights after you ignorantly consented to a single request or answered a single question.
Talk to a good lawyer, they will tell you he same.
My experience? 3rd year law Harvard.
A 3rd year law guy who can’t spell. Explain what “accudent” means. It’s most likely dumbbells like you who drink and drive which gives me the right to beat the crap out of you.
Agenda and you’re mad because you are a tool
“The best way to handle peace officers, law enforcement officers or policemen is..etc,etc. and blah, blah ” It’s easy to give this advice in an article but have you actually walked the talked, that is, did police ever throw you in a cage for trying this experiment?
I live in Europe where they generally don’t throw you into cages for minor infractions. They get your identity and just send you the bill. Nothing dramatic and if you want to contest and are stupid enough to go through all the legal crap then have at it. There are more important issues at hand at the moment to fight for.
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It appears you are all off point. First, the “privilege to drive” is to use the streets and highways for gainful purpose, i.e. commercial purposes. Second a Motor Vehicle is used for gainful purpose or used for commercial purposes (USC 18 sec 32.) Third your personal mode of conveyance whether a car, truck motorcycle or horse and carriage iit is not for hire and therefore is consumer goods UCC 9-102(23). Sovereign doesn’t work. Natural man/ natural woman v legal fiction is what works. Look up the definition of person; look up the definition of individual USC 5 sec. 552.
“The word ‘person’ (persona) does not in the language of the law, as in ordinary language, designate the physical man.”
The word “person” in legal terminology is perceived as a general word which normally includes in
its scope a variety of entities other than human beings. See e.g. 1 U.S.C. sec 1. Church of Scientology v. U.S. Dept. of Justice (1979) 612 F.2d 417, 425.
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https://theftbydeception.blogspot.com/2010/02/bar-association-history-who-owns-us.html
Been “Traveling” without a lie-sence / license since 1996, and been “pulled over by 2 HiPos, one in Florida, and one in Texas, and they did the “moon walk away from my van” without me showing any form of ID, or insurance, or registration!
And they didn’t want to DOCS I had them READ, as I acted like I was mute and just slapped at the papers and shook my head NO!
And I got stopped by TWO city POs in TEXAS and they, read the same docs, and told me to “Have a nice day,” and didn’t want my docs either, and didn’t get any ID, proof of insurance or etc., etc., etc. And when I talked to a few mo PO… they said that I had a “NO STOP” on my lie-sence Plates!
Now when anyone stop me….in other states….
I just ask um..
“Was that a question, and do I have the Right to Remain Silent, and does anything I give you, can it be held against me in a court of law?
And since i can’t afford a lawyer, can I still have one present during any Questioning?
Are you going to tell me my Miranda Rights to cover you I a court of law?
Yes or NO?
And of course… I have the app “Pulled Over” running and uploading the WHOLE thing in “real time!”
And I found out it doesn’t matter what “auto” I’m “Traveling in,” as it seems that that “NO STOP” transfers to my next Lie-sense” plate.
OH YA…. I’m still a “Carl Miller” fan even after the “they” killed” him!
Now I do Fed Rico Actions, and won 2 of 2 without any “bar-carder” present, (except on the “udder side!”) No brag…just the FACTS!
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